| Re: a comment on [] by Prince of Void |
zodiac 209.193.14.113 |
9-Jan-06/4:18 PM |
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I do. This is not postmodernism. (Incidentally, poetry published today isn't postmodernism, either, as postmodernism ended anywhere from 2 to 4 decades ago. Today's poetry is called 'contemporary' until we come up with a better term.)
Furthermore, as far as 'representation' is a term specific to postmodernism, it only refers to the idea that writing REPRESENTS a history or reality which may not, in fact, be capturable -ie, that does not properly exist. This, rather than the classical or naturalist notion that writing can "capture" things as they really happened.
So are you saying that the thing we don't understand about this poem is that it's not an actual void, only a REPRESENTATION of void? Hey, good one. But we've all known that since kindergarten, postmodernism (as I've mentioned) having been around since before most of us were born.
By the by, you probably screwed up your other postmodernism term, too. Intertextuality, as used by postmodernists, means the understanding that texts derive from and interact with each other - as opposed to the more classical notion that a text can stand alone as its own entity. You can't "use" intertextuality in your poem, only at best acknowledge it. Did you mean that Nick doesn't get how your work depends on Dylan Thomas' text for its only half-decent line, or that you shouldn't read this poem without simultaneously listening to Gish-era Smashing Pumpkins? For my money, you meant that you were throwing out the only postmodernist vocab you know in a sagging bid for self-esteem, along with the suggestion that none of us understand "postmodernist" poetry except you. Please don't make any more assumptions about us. Thanks. It's been great talking to you.
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| Re: Reckoning by <~> |
ALChemy 24.74.101.159 |
9-Jan-06/4:16 PM |
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Has a groovy beat poem feel to it. It was pleasant to read but nothing much really stuck with me except the lines Zodiac already mentioned.
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| Re: a comment on [] by Prince of Void |
Prince of Void 213.207.224.156 |
9-Jan-06/3:53 PM |
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sorry ..do u know anything about post-modernism ..and these reflections from modern poetry ..in post-modernism they called representation and Intertextuality
...when u can't read this ..how u came to judge about the art that has gone beyond ur knowledge ..it's useless to talke to u like that ..and i want you to know ..thanx anyway for ur comment
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| Re: Reckoning by <~> |
zodiac 209.193.14.113 |
9-Jan-06/3:24 PM |
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"netted, complicit, wooden and pushed about" is great. The rest of the last stanza should go, says me.
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| Re: portrait of powerlessness by digipoet |
Nicholas Jones 86.135.254.59 |
9-Jan-06/11:59 AM |
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This one actually has some interesting writing, though your last line is entirely superfluous.
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| Re: [] by Prince of Void |
Nicholas Jones 86.135.254.59 |
9-Jan-06/11:56 AM |
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Sorry, this is pretty bad, and nicking bits from Dylan Thomas generally isn't a good plan. That's why Thomas, through being a genius, held Welsh poetry back for about thirty years.
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| Re: Flicking by INTRANSIT |
lmp 141.154.134.3 |
9-Jan-06/11:23 AM |
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was this ammended/edited? some of the comments don't seem to make sense...
i like this one, and after a couple of reads i get the thrill... specially liking the last 2 lines.
p.s. yeah, i know the stallone movie. cheesy in my opinion.
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| Re: Pledge by http://mulberryfairy |
lmp 141.154.134.3 |
9-Jan-06/11:13 AM |
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i always wondered, who offers therapy to the therapist? i mean, some of the disturbing stuff that one may hear in a session, although clinically is not supposed to stick, does. and if the therapist is in a por mental health state, that would be dangerous...
interesting piece on what i presume to be your work. must be frustrating to split off from yourself like that, but a neccessity at the same time.
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| Re: a comment on Sunlighting by ALChemy |
lmp 141.154.134.3 |
9-Jan-06/10:58 AM |
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please take no offense here, cyan9, as i do not know you nor will i attempt to judge you. the feeling in this poem is something i have only really come to know after having become an uncle, and which has redoubled once becoming a father.
making time to spend with a child that wants to spend time with you is better than anything else you would ever put away for later. the reward is priceless and you receive it immediately. this poem completely, in my opinion, captures the essence of that wisdom.
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| Re: Construction Lot (edit) by zodiac |
<~> 167.206.181.179 |
9-Jan-06/10:58 AM |
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the wet trash can cross it but you cannot, do not.
in my heart twice in S1 does not seem intentional, and maybe should be an edit.
drop "just" from S3 L1; it's a filler word. nice linebreak at S3 L2
beautiful ending. love it that mirror sky subtextually tells me about the puddles, the melt in warming March.
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| Re: a comment on greymo(u)rn by lmp |
zodiac 209.193.14.113 |
9-Jan-06/10:56 AM |
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I don't know. It has the tendency to make me write exactly like him. Mostly short sentences. I'm drinking coffee. The coffee's good but not as good as that night in Escorial with the commandantes all smoking around the table and the bombs falling over the ridge with the pine woods and oh Maria was soft when she came to me and she put her hand on me and I said oh no don't put your hand there, not there. Then she left. Bitch.
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| Re: Duff firs, Nawal by zodiac |
<~> 167.206.181.179 |
9-Jan-06/10:52 AM |
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i like it.
in english. and i like the way my ill-informed pronunciation makes it sound in arabic.
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| Re: a comment on What Matters by Dovina |
zodiac 209.193.14.113 |
9-Jan-06/10:52 AM |
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I'll keep setting them up...
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| Re: What Matters by Dovina |
lmp 141.154.134.3 |
9-Jan-06/10:49 AM |
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i think the sentiment that inspired this work outweighs the sentiment conveyed. i am guessing a budding artist's drawing for you is the subject. as someone commented on my attempt at Haiku, "sometimes 17 syllables isn't enough".
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| Re: California triolets by zodiac |
amanda_dcosta 203.145.159.37 |
9-Jan-06/10:48 AM |
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Not bad...... You have a nice way of turning a very obscure scene into poetic reality.
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| Re: a comment on What Matters by Dovina |
lmp 141.154.134.3 |
9-Jan-06/10:46 AM |
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| Re: Uncontrolled scribblings one luch break by Nicholas Jones |
<~> 167.206.181.179 |
9-Jan-06/10:44 AM |
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no need for apologiy.
i question the need for the stanza on footballers. i'm missing the relationship to the seasonality of the rest of it.
then again, maybe the january fog has got to me as well.
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| Re: a comment on A New Year Prayer by amanda_dcosta |
lmp 141.154.134.3 |
9-Jan-06/10:44 AM |
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oops. line 10: "Misfortune's been our friend;" not "out friend as I corrected. heh heh.
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| Re: A New Year Prayer by amanda_dcosta |
lmp 141.154.134.3 |
9-Jan-06/10:42 AM |
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line 10: "Misfortune's been out friend;" (add the "'s")
line 17: add a comma after "Lord", as in line 1.
not my style poem, but a nice sentiment. i suppose the aetheists don't deserve a happy new year? it is, in my opinion, the danger of writing a prayer-type poem, i suppose.
thanks and happy new year in return.
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| Re: a comment on A New Year Prayer by amanda_dcosta |
lmp 141.154.134.3 |
9-Jan-06/10:37 AM |
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i'm not a teener, but i hate the shift key. either ALL CAPS or all lowers sometimes. <grin> yeah i am lazy, but i never took typing.
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