NoSage
on Me by berdabear
17 Sep 2004, 8:00 AM
You start off on the wrong foot by saying attatchment is all it can be, is there no room for growth? Still, I like it. Also, I imagine all of you IS everything to the right one.
There once was an AIDS-tainted chimp
Who worked in the slums as a pimp.
He acquired the virus
By feeling desirous
About an old man with a limp.
Like that version, too. Much different, I think mine is more coloured. Maybe because I did it for a certain person, rather than for accuracy's sake... :)
9... AIDS is fun...
thanks.. someone noticed..
I know.
Amazing.
I'm a jelly guy.
undoubtedly
Lol, thank you.
I liked this.
Except for the me be me me me be me see me thing you got going.
The last two lines are identical to my translation (which I provided the link to in my last comment here,) which I suppose is a good thing. As it happens, I'm not a native welsh speaeker either or even Welsh (or British,) I don't even know what my first language is actually. I just like Welsh and the culture that goes along with it. Only really spent a week in Wales.
Hilarity!
Here's my quick and dirty version (by no means perfect either) for comparison
Gentle songs I sing to you by night-
Songs no mortal ear knows inklings of
Nor a star that stares down from its height
Nor the moon that swims the sky above.
Songs that none except the very heart
dreaming them can weep for as it hears,
Songs on which none but the burning smart
That devised them grows indulged in tears.
Gentle songs I sing to you by night,
In whose eyes I've felt my senses sink,
You, from whose deep well, too low for light,
My soul drank eternal longing's drink
Yes, I was so busy with the rhymes that I dropped the syntax! ;-) As for the "silent gear," I think it is more appropriate than trying to be direct; the "ether" thing didn't seem to work for me when I tried out the alternatives.
Thanks for the hints, I'll amend the translation as more comments come in. Suggestions are welcome. Best regards, Ralf
Hmm I like this one but not as much.
I think "glides in silent gear" is not very Morgenstern like and isn't a very good translation for "der still im Ãther schwimmt"
Also you translate "das eigne Herz" (one's own heart) as "the heart of mine" and use the first person pronoun where it doesen't exist in the original, which completely crushes the charming ambiguity of the second stanza.
"In whose eyes sank my sense and mind" is archaic and sounds like german syntax. It is not natural in a translation of an idiomatic spontaneous poet like Morgenstern.
Though you have to make changes and substitutions for the sake of cadence in any good translation, you should be aware of what those substitutions are and how they affect the poem.
Kylie and jason, actually.
Dear PeRsIaN^StAr,
Welcome to PoemeRanker! And thank you for joining us just so you could inform me of the important new developments in AIDS and AIDS related research. Yours is the first comment on this poeme that I have read carefully, and without prejudice, and I'd like to take this opportunity to say that what I read chilled me to the bone. I had no idea AIDS was such a serious disease, nor that it could affect any one of us - not just homo lords or ethnics. I now realise how deeply ignorant my poeme is, and how it only serves to increase the number of people who die from AIDS. But the worst thing about this poeme isn't the fact that it makes AIDS more difficult to cure. Nor is it the fact that it makes some people laugh at AIDS against their will. It's the fact that it makes me feel guilty. For that, I thank you.
Cultural annihilation and commodification is worse than simply displaying the scars. The past shouldn't be sanitised and made safe. Reading this again, though, I think mainly that I'd been reading too much R. S. Thomas. I think that R. S., for all his faults (his oversimplistic hatred of English language culture, the hideously patronising Iago Prytherch poems), was perhaps the greatest poet to come out of Wales in the twentieth century (in English, at any rate, in Welsh I'd have to suggest Gwenallt). But his influence hasn't really been healthy, because it has fostered this sense of isolation and a nationalism based on historical doom. (See Dafydd Elis Thomas in Poetry Wales sometime in the 1970s).
As it happens, I'm English, and English is my first language. But my father is Welsh, and I've just spent three years in Swansea studying for a PhD in the field of Welsh Writing in English (on the poet Harri Webb). I've been learning Welsh for that time only.