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20 most recent comments by Dovina (141-160) and replies

Re: a comment on Rancor by Dovina 25-Jul-08/7:41 PM
Oh, please do. However everyone has left, its like talking to rockmage.
Re: a comment on The Man Who Drooped by -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 25-Jul-08/7:38 PM
Please try reading it again without the tarnishment of indulgent optimism, striving to find essences within it that might, with forthright effort, yield its pungent insights.
Re: Magazine Promotion by nentwined 23-Jul-08/4:27 PM
Where the heck is GUD anyway? I liked 20% of it and that's a lot. Be like Homer, I say, write for absolutely no reason at all and try to sell nothing.
Re: Almost Alone by sliver 23-Jul-08/4:21 PM
Becoming more like willow than oak is very Dao and very cool.

Verse 2 displays drunkenness; please proofread.

Verse 5 is a thing I learned 20 years ago. But Verse 6 blows it.

The final verse is a disappointment to a good poem. Goals should always be subject to change.
Re: a comment on Cinematic Indulgence by nentwined 23-Jul-08/4:16 PM
Pardon my butting in, but it really ought to go somewhere beyond "failure" in the last verse. For starters dump the two semicolons and the quotes, also the colon. Cool if you're making movies now; if so, a bit more process please.
Re: a comment on in this bus terminal of the future by nentwined 28-Jun-08/10:37 AM
SEARCH works for me today, STL but it works. Anti-grav is here now, a mere dimple in space-time, just have to think light, less chocolate and all. Cheers.
Re: The sky ending up by Prince of Void 27-Jun-08/11:18 AM
Pessimists have the advantage of seldom becoming discouraged by a bad happening. Enjoy unhappiness, it seems quite comforting. I think you can make this more unhappy be cutting the "in"s in lines 6 and 7 and other such words that don't depress.
Re: I Got Mine Designed by Skamper 27-Jun-08/10:46 AM
At least you're back and ranting erotically. I wish more were. "de-frost" is like putting Frost down. Hopefully you don't mean to; why not "defrost"?
Re: in this bus terminal of the future by nentwined 27-Jun-08/10:39 AM
If an engine won't run, inject some of your own blood into its carburetor. Good try. I think the resumption of SEARCH would make a better try.

As for anti-grav and VTOL, they look like results of the same technology. I don't know what FTL is. The last line is funny
Re: a comment on Voice of the World by Dovina 21-Jun-08/7:29 PM
Do you think that the laws and initial conditions that determined the properties of the universe are consistent with the existence of intellegent life?
Re: a comment on Voice of the World by Dovina 9-May-08/11:00 AM
I attended Stephen Hawking speaking on philosophy at Caltech recently, if you can call twitching his eyelid speaking. “Nothing can be known except through science,” he said. And when someone asked what existed before the Bang, he said, “That can never be known.”

Now we have the Higgs Field, a kind of universal molasses all particles slog through, if we can even describe them as particles. It replaces the ether that light used to flow though before we learned it did not exist.

My point is not “the necessity of Religion [derived from] from the inevitability of Mystery.” Nor should we “make up an explanation, or put faith in someone else's explanation.” I am not convinced that “if there is some grand scheme, some meaningful wider context to our actions, then any such scheme is unknowable.”

“What is easier to believe? That there was always something or that there was once nothing? ... Christianity says that creation has a beginning, middle and end. The Greeks claimed that creation is a timeless process. Both are correct. All that is created and is therefore individual has a beginning and an end; but there is no universal beginning and end.” John Fowles

“This underlying unity of reality (God) is central … the future of theology and our understanding of 'God', to explore the properties of this Space we all find ourselves existing in.” Geoff Haselhurst, Karene Howie at http://www.spaceandmotion.com/

“From his present dissatisfaction, man reasons that there was some catastrophic wreck in the past, before which he was happy; some golden age, some Garden of Eden. He also reasons that somewhere ahead lies a promised land, a land without conflict. Meanwhile, he is miserably en passage; this myth lies deeper than religious faith.” John Fowles
Re: a comment on Voice of the World by Dovina 6-May-08/5:43 PM
Your summary of the Faith in Paragraph 2 follows roughly the Apostle Paul’s development in Romans, and also teachings of the unknown writer of Hebrews, books with substantiated dates in the first century. Your assertion that the “fundamental tenet of Christianity is that Christ died on the cross for our sins so that we may be forgiven and go to Heaven” fails only in the last word. Your inclusion of Heaven as a GOAL of Christians, well, you probably got it from some little hardshell Baptist town in Alabama. At least you are sticking, for the most part, to tenants of the faith and not arguing against some later additions to Jesus’ teachings, as most unbelievers do.

Where you go astray is in discrediting religion on principle, using arguments from enlightened secularism. Betelgeuse shines up there to humiliate all such reason. Small we are and small our thinking compared to Whoever put it there. I suggest rather comparing your summary of the Gospel to faith in atheism, agnosticism, a dried and painted goat’s head, or whatever. At some point, each of us surrenders to mystery, which appears to grow before us faster than science explains it. Mysteries we never saw seem attached to every scientific advance.
Re: Light show by winniss 11-Mar-08/3:34 PM
ok, nice rhythm, ok rhyme. What's the point?
Re: The Things We Wear by jessicazee 11-Mar-08/3:32 PM
"red rain dress" is a wonderment, maybe like me, you just walk a lot and get wet. "worm elastic" is cute. That hat wont help against rain. S4 is strange, and strangely punctuated. S5 pulls it together, except the tag is again, strange.
Re: Lost by alvinb 15-Feb-08/3:24 PM
added - grammar
Re: Sleep *edited by hobojo 15-Feb-08/3:22 PM
emits sound
Re: Nameless Stranger (a rensaku) by gunsaku 6-Feb-08/4:12 PM
good except penultimate stanza. Adding supernatural is a disappointment. First 5 verses are best.
Re: Empty Eyes by Rachelle Egan 6-Feb-08/4:07 PM
The rhymes are forced. Rwanda deserves better.
Re: Should have a world record by alvinb 6-Feb-08/4:06 PM
Do you really think your tears and your heartaches are greater than any others? "Do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you." I Pet 4
Re: Voice of the World by Dovina 27-Jan-08/2:55 PM
Beginning a new thread like a charismatic renewal of an old religion, this is an answer to atheists, a declaration of victory in the battle between enlightened secularism and Christianity. Or stated with recognition of human frailty, as Jesus taught to state, I preface anything I say with realization that Betelgeuse is 800 times the sun’s diameter and is so far away that nobody living today will see it, but only its light sent hundreds of years ago. And though it is unimaginably big and far, much greater things were flung by someone (Oh, sorry, that presumes too much.) My mistake, of course, is inferring God from science, instead of not-god from science.

Now where were we? Oh yes, we were relating morality and religion. Or stated another way, we were relating principles that hold society in harmony, with ideas about God. They seem unrelated to me, but I find it interesting that most religions hold the same morals in regard to stealing, killing, fraud, and the like. Religions differ on morals about the eating of bats, the covering of women’s faces, and the killing of insects. The first set of morals derives from polite society’s needs, and work just fine either couched in dogma or without religion. The second begin with writings and cleric’s decrees. Just because these “morals” get stuck into religion does not make them part of true religion. What could the eating of bats have to do with recognition of God? Jesus made this point clear, as anyone can see from reading him apart from later writings of his church. Christianity is about Christ (duh) not about superseded Old Testament texts or something a monk wrote in the fourteenth century.

In summary: don’t get me started.


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