| Re: a comment on There is a journey tree by ALChemy |
ALChemy 24.74.101.159 |
16-Oct-05/7:04 PM |
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According to the poem the tree will never fall over. I'm quite flattered that you hope that such a thing does exist. Me too.
The poem came from a story I started to write years ago and never finished. Hense the assured title. It does exist at least in that story.
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| Re: a comment on The Servant and The Messenger by ALChemy |
Niphredil 192.115.60.89 |
16-Oct-05/9:08 AM |
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I'd like to comment, if I may.
You are talkng about an abstract concept know as 'faith', where someone who believes in God has 'faith', and someone who is an atheist does not.
I'd like to extend that concept and change it a little. What I believe is inherent within human beings is not the capacity for faith but the prayer for deliverance - or hope.
Any human being has prayed for help at least once in his life; for example, you walk around the corner and see that your house is on fire and your family is inside. The first thing that whips through your mind is, 'Please, let them be all right'...
Most events in life can't be controlled. Hoping for something to turn out okay is essentially the same as a prayer to God, Luck, or the laws of physics; and this is, in my opinion, a trait common to all living beings, on different levels.
I'd like to argue that this, in fact, should replace the concept of 'faith' that you are disputing. Change it to 'prayer for deliverance'.
Do animals 'hope', or 'pray for deliverance'? Why shouldn't they, in the sense that I described? In fact, the entire concept of 'God' is, basically, just an extension of this tenet based on the fact that humans have superior, more developed brains; allowing them to develop this *extremely* basic idea along with the development of their brains over time, or evolution, if you will.
So in my opinion, what I would say is:
The hope of being delivered from trouble is a universal trait and common, on one level or another, to all sentient beings. Humans, having superior brains, have developed from this a concept of 'God', 'religion' and 'faith' as an outlet and a reason for hope - we will always hope for the best, because God is with us. However, since most phenomena can be explained perfectly well by physics, faith is no longer a necessity in modern life, and has been spurned by atheists; however, every human (faithless or not) continues to hope.
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| Re: There is a journey tree by ALChemy |
Dovina 209.247.222.91 |
16-Oct-05/6:28 AM |
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The metaphor brings up fears that the tree, perched on the brink, will eventually fall over, as real trees so perched usually do when a storm comes. But the greater fear is that any such hypothetical refuge doesn't really exist.
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| Re: Downside by Miggy |
ALChemy 24.74.101.159 |
16-Oct-05/5:12 AM |
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Lyrics better left unread: Most early Beetles songs.
Lyrics worth reading: Most later Beetles songs.
I can't seem to fit your poem in either category.
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| Re: a comment on I don't rhyme enough, eh? by Niphredil |
ALChemy 24.74.101.159 |
16-Oct-05/4:15 AM |
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Not quite. It's because words are a necessity in rap. Even its name comes from a slang term for talking. Most other popular forms of music tend to rely more on the actual music. I will say some country music has many of the qualities you find in literature poetry. Then a bunch of cowboys drew their pistols.
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| Re: a comment on The End by Caducus |
ALChemy 24.74.101.159 |
16-Oct-05/1:19 AM |
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Q: You were smoking a joint when you wrote this weren't you?
Actually that sounds like a good idea.
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| Re: Itâs getting dark by Prince of Void |
Niphredil 192.115.60.89 |
15-Oct-05/4:42 PM |
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I really don't know what you are trying to say in this poem, sorry.
On a more practical note - I find the 'But' at the beginning quite awkward.
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| Re: a comment on Waking at night by Niphredil |
Niphredil 192.115.60.89 |
15-Oct-05/12:59 PM |
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Thank you! Much appreciated.
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| Re: Waking at night by Niphredil |
Dovina 209.247.222.89 |
15-Oct-05/12:47 PM |
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The word "dull" seems too bland. Otherwise I like it a lot.
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| Re: never visit a diner twice by Bill Z Bub |
Dovina 209.247.222.89 |
15-Oct-05/12:42 PM |
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No comma after diner. I think that "left in the gutter" makes the idea inconsistant. I'd leave out "left." Otherwise very concise and good.
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| Re: Sleep It All Away by somemorepoetry |
Dovina 209.247.222.89 |
15-Oct-05/12:37 PM |
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Line 4 seems there only for the rhyme.
Just wrap YOUR arms all around me.
But I like the sentiment and the subtle implications. With thr right tune, it'd make a good song.
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| Re: a comment on The Servant and The Messenger by ALChemy |
Dovina 209.247.222.89 |
15-Oct-05/12:15 PM |
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Your summary is good up to your rephrasing of my my last response. My answer to "And what's the point of saying that anyway?" was not "Blaaaaaaaat." Please read it again.
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| Re: a comment on Rocky Road by Dovina |
Dovina 209.247.222.89 |
15-Oct-05/12:07 PM |
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| Re: a comment on Figment by Dovina |
Dovina 209.247.222.89 |
15-Oct-05/12:03 PM |
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Iâm an amateur magician. Just ask zodiac. Heâs seen my magic a dozen times over, and never has figured out how I do it. All he can say is âHa.â
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| Re: Itâs getting dark by Prince of Void |
zodiac 213.186.183.100 |
15-Oct-05/5:58 AM |
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By "poetry of imagery", you can't possibly mean your poetry.
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| Re: 3312 by D P Robertson |
zodiac 213.186.183.100 |
15-Oct-05/5:57 AM |
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| Re: muted muffability by calliope |
zodiac 213.186.183.100 |
15-Oct-05/5:53 AM |
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Everything except the semicolon is great. Nice one.
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| Re: monday v2 by ay deee |
zodiac 213.186.183.100 |
15-Oct-05/5:53 AM |
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Can't trust that day.
On a related note, I just watched that movie Elephant last night. Now that's some fucked up shit.
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| Re: Figment by Dovina |
zodiac 213.186.183.100 |
15-Oct-05/5:51 AM |
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| Re: The End by Caducus |
zodiac 213.186.183.100 |
15-Oct-05/5:50 AM |
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Q: Did you know that "The End" is infamously the name of the Doors' awful Apocalypse Now theme-song?
Christ, maybe I AM old. Or educated.
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