Re: a comment on Bri's Room (not done) by Sunshine Conkey |
16-Dec-05/4:33 AM |
re "rich, famous, and well-known"
You didn't know who de Tocqueville was. Most poemranker users probably still don't. So what's the difference?
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Re: a comment on Bri's Room (not done) by Sunshine Conkey |
16-Dec-05/4:31 AM |
What, as a Quote-Seller? Oh, a Quote-*Patenter*.
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Re: a comment on Bri's Room (not done) by Sunshine Conkey |
15-Dec-05/7:53 PM |
Oh, great. Nothing trumps facts like... random sourceless quotes!!!
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Re: Privacy by Dovina |
15-Dec-05/3:18 PM |
I have to roast potatoes. I'll be back for this.
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Re: a comment on You Have It Backwards by LilMsLadyPoet |
15-Dec-05/3:16 PM |
No one here has suggested that.
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Re: a comment on The Cowardice of Francis Evans by Caducus |
15-Dec-05/3:16 PM |
No I'm not. You'll have to take my word on that.
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Re: a comment on CHRISTMAS EVERYDAY by amanda_dcosta |
15-Dec-05/3:15 PM |
1. Not closely enough. It just sounds weird. Surely as someone with at least a casual interest in words, you can appreciate that.
2. Good.
4. living in dank conservative hellholes, loving, laving, collecting postcards, once as a lark rolled Stephen Hawking.
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Re: a comment on The Cowardice of Francis Evans by Caducus |
15-Dec-05/2:26 PM |
Oh, yeah, sure. It's still a silly metaphor.
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Re: a comment on You Have It Backwards by LilMsLadyPoet |
15-Dec-05/2:25 PM |
So what you're saying is half-baked ideas are great when, and only when, they become fully baked. Good one.
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Re: a comment on CHRISTMAS EVERYDAY by amanda_dcosta |
15-Dec-05/2:24 PM |
(1) "sorry" doesn't mean sorrowing. Please stop saying that.
(2) We don't enjoy thinking you've been humiliated. We know by now you can't be humiliated, even when you've pooed on yourself and don't know it. You think that's a positive characteristic.
(3) You're so full of it, you're brown.
(4) I have many more pleasures in life than you do. Want to count?
zodiac: Loving spouse.
Dovina: Nobody :-(
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Re: The Cowardice of Francis Evans by Caducus |
15-Dec-05/2:21 PM |
Soil has swords? Where? Make it something else bejewelled. Or make a better metaphor for frost than jewels.
corvids - no apostrophe. platoons - no apostrophe. Hopefully you're starting to get the problem.
Sun has risen, not rose. Not even in joke.
winter's - with an apostrophe, because it's possessive.
Verse 3 is great. The only part of this even close to what I'd call "the style of I like." Verse 4's good too.
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Re: a comment on Moving Forward In Reverse (For Ann) by wilco |
14-Dec-05/7:04 PM |
The conversation's in Suggestions now, bud.
1. Because as far as other people are concerned, your favorites are automatically arranged newest to oldest.
2. Because a new user on the site looking for good poetry won't know to look at your, AlChemy's, favorites. They will know to click a link for "User's Top 10s" or something such.
3. Because a longer list would be kind of wearying.
4. Because it would encourage people with only a few favorites marked to really stake out their 10 favorite favorites.
5. Because everybody's Top 10s on the same page would have the same effect as a working Top 10 page - ie, you'd see that several people had chosen "Flowers for Monet", by Shuushin, while only thepinkbunnyofdoom had chosen all thepinkbunnyofdoom posts. It would make self-aggradizers more obvious, and force people to think about other posters besides themselves.
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Re: a comment on Moving Forward In Reverse (For Ann) by wilco |
14-Dec-05/6:29 PM |
Or maybe Top 10 lists, linked, in a format like:
zodiac [link to zodiac]
1. Farm animals INTRANSIT Ghazal 5.24;1
2. Waiting Room jessicazee Free verse 5.50;5
3. Blackout, Amman, November, 2005 zodiac Free verse 5.56
4. A country called Cha richa Free verse 5.19
5. The Negro Everyone Free verse 5.17
6. ...So We Stayed In The Water Fear of Garbage Free verse 5.54
7. After seven days in the sun <~> Villanelle 6.67
8. Las Gaviotas Bachus Villanelle 7.64
9. The Gentleman -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. Free verse 6.75
10. Portsmouth belle 2 Garrett S Sexton Free verse 5.91
Dovina
1...
2...
AlChemy
1...
silver
And so on. Of course it would be a lot like Favorites, just more accessible to new users unfamiliar with the site. And of course it would be just as arbitrary (and possibly tpbod would make his Top 10 entirely out of his own poems) but that wouldn't matter. It wouldn't claim to be objective; just a new user's guide, made by current or regular users. Anyway, I might just make an unofficial one myself. There's my current Top 10. Any other takers?
Going to Suggestions now...
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Re: a comment on Moving Forward In Reverse (For Ann) by wilco |
14-Dec-05/6:19 PM |
Eliminate anonymous votes somehow. No, I can't think of a way of doing it without chaos ensuing. Maybe an amnesty for all existing anonymous votes, just no more from here out. Of course, it would be hard to replace poems whose scores were already inflated, but it would happen eventually. The current Top 20, by way of example, is mostly legitimate - unlike most of the Top 20s since I've been here. The sad truth, though, is that anonymous votes are only legitimate, like, 5% of the time. Certainly it wouldn't be worth keeping the current anonymous voting system just to allow those genuine casual site visitors to vote, when a good portion of them might just go through the trouble of creating accounts to vote instead.
By the way, cool new vote readout on poem details!
The really best way to improve the Top 20 is to solicit totally subjective Top 20 lists from regular users and post them as "User Recommendations" or something such. That would fulfill all the purposes of the current top 20 except 'Winning Poemranker'.
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Re: One Moment to the Other (v3) by nentwined |
14-Dec-05/5:24 PM |
I checked onelook.com, search terms *mary, *mery, *mory, and *mury, and got:
GEMMARY, n. A receptacle for jewels or gems; a jewel house; jewels or gems, collectively.
GREMORY, in demonology, a strong Duke of Hell that governs twenty-six legions of demons. She tells all things past, present and future, about hidden treasures, and procures the love of women, young and old, but especially maidens. She is depicted as appearing in the form of a beautiful woman with the crown of a duchess tied around her waist, and riding a camel. Other spellings: Gamory, Gemory, Gomory
BLOMERY, n. (Manuf.) A furnace and forge in which wrought iron in the form of blooms is made directly from the ore, or (more rarely) from cast iron.
GRAMARY, magic; enchantment
(NOTE-http://phrontistery.info/ for obscure words. It's ace.)
NUMMARY, a. Of or relating to coins or money.
FLUMMERY, n, Meaningless or deceptive language; humbug. Any of several soft, sweet, bland foods, such as custard.
BUMMERY, n. See Bottomery. [Obs.] There was a scivener of Wapping brought to hearing for relief against a bummery bond. --R. North.
STEMMERY, n. A large building in which tobacco is stemmed
Also, SUMMARY, PRIMARY, INFIRMARY.
If you want to use an obscure word for the rhyme, try the Dylan trick of using the obscure word for the first appearance of the sound, followed by the obvious rhyme (rather than looking like you forced yourself to resort to an obscure word to finish the rhyme.)
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Re: a comment on You Have It Backwards by LilMsLadyPoet |
14-Dec-05/4:43 PM |
I don't care much about people debating. I occasionally care if people have half-baked ideas, especially if they're pretending to be poets at the time. You wouldn't want me going around talking silly in the name of your chosen profession, would you?
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Re: a comment on You Have It Backwards by LilMsLadyPoet |
13-Dec-05/6:34 PM |
I suppose you think that's getting me back for my comment about you on amanda_dcosta's poem. You have to admit, that was pretty fucking funny.
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Re: a comment on I saw Your Face Last Night by Dovina |
13-Dec-05/6:32 PM |
In all honesty, try writing your poem about imperfect and unidealized love, and I think you'll come closer to what you're aiming for.
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Re: You Have It Backwards by LilMsLadyPoet |
13-Dec-05/4:38 PM |
PS-From the other string:
LilMsLadyPoet: I'm sorry, but when I see the words 'socialism and civic responsibility'...'institutions' that 'collectively' mandate you help a worthless neighbor, that you OWE something to anybody who has his hand out, that your sweat, labour, and reward should be used to raise 'the collective' of people needing your assistance...well...I stop listening. Responsible citizenship, to me, does not mean "responsible to and for the citizens".
zodiac: That's all well and good, and I'm as egotist (or egoist, I always forget which,) as the next guy. But what would you say if I suggested that your future is very much in the hands of those people you refuse to feed? (Don't believe me? What are you paying for gas recently?)
What if the odds are very high that you or someone you know will be blown up by some worthless guy you didn't hand out to? Are handouts justfied if they might prevent that?
I'd very much like to hear your answer.
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Re: a comment on Oh Merry Fay (part 1) by ALChemy |
13-Dec-05/4:32 PM |
See if you can get -=D_A=-,P.I., to talk about Carroll. You know he taught 'Maths' at their college, Oxford.
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