Noted and bless you (please see reply to richa

Thank You richa. The 'yeast baptized in wine' refers to the body of Christ (literally) being saturated by his blood (wine) and I guess is again an irony. The 'intoxicated eucharist' could be deemed as impeding the flow but one felt it important to mention it as the eucharist was instituted in the last supper in which bread and wine were consecrated and consumed in remembrance of Jesus's death. This fascinates me as Christ was consumed by Judas at the last supper, and during his bloodied walk to his crucixion, so Judas consecrated Christ at the supper, devouring his body and blood which was parasitic and treacherous yet his deceit was immaculately carried out, i mean talk about taking the piss.

This is a 1st draft and there are some points bith you and Z have raised that I have to look in to .

Thanks to you Richa/Z

Joe-Joe one should never abstain from endeavor, in the words of Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel - 'Don't Give Up'.

Whether Jesus was a mortal or infinite is something I have pondered on for all my life and its open for question. The line in the poem 'as he falls from faith' endorses that uncertainty i have (and indeed Jesus may have had). Judas's suicide is poetic in that according to catholic faith God will not accept mortals who take their own lives but did he have a hand in his fate? did he cheat? The carpenter dying on wood is an irony that the creator is killed by his creation in both man and cross. Its all about irony and tainted faith.

Thank you for your comments my young fry.

She's too classy for this site my young fry thats for sure. But yes she is an artform of feminine beauty. (I wouldn't like to cross her though sunshine)

Any thoughts Ms Z?

I am taking your advice and I thank you for your careful eye.

I know votes are not a mercury of someones true talent and I think we unerstand each others points. It all boils down to this, Why is he hellbent on pissing off people? I loved my Father but he put me down all my life but he was old fashioned (there was a generation gap) I think PAKI enjoys being nasty and considering poetry is supposed to encapsulate and celebrate the human emotion he devours it with vitriol. I have had 5 e-mails from 3 people on this site who left because of him. I mean the man needs an attitude adjustment. If he needs to criticize thats great, couldn't agree more but its the WAY he does it and the consistency of downright rudeness.
I had a major altercation with horus8 over my poem Yellow Star we had 26 exchanges but we're friends and mutually respect each others styles. I love the boy for his ferocity and honesty because you can see passion and reasons why he disagrees or dislikes something. PAKI merely exists on this site to piss people off, everyone else on here thinks I'm okay at writing and a cheerful kind of chap except him.

Anyway thanks for your comment and maybe I have failed to remain grown up about this, one should simply ignore him and as you say concentrate on my own work.

Till we meet again.

Its interesting how this comment was posted at 08:32pm and the last vote cast was 08:32pm, it was not even in the best list up until that point and now it is so you must have voted it highly intentionally or not.

Please feel free PAKI to vote it 0 like you do with all my poems.

I hate inconsistency after all, go on make my day punk.

I disagree his writing is superior to 99% of people on here. I find his work boring, and unappealing. He can hardly support he is superior when his average weighted mark is quite low. We all get voted of the best list often but he's never up there to vote off. I really think he could do with a reality check and actually see the facts, that statistically he is the weakest link - goodbye PAKI.

(And that whole Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha thing makes me feel sorry for him, even his comments are boring).

My gripe with PAKI is the nature in which he criticizes. I am not offended by his dislike of my work because he is a minority in not liking it. Every comment he has made has been rather rude and when he gets a bad comment the jury is out, I think that is a tad unfair. Besides he has had one good comment from me, the boy thinks he is poetically blessed more than 99% of others on here.

I hope that answers your question.