Re: a comment on The Servant and The Messenger by ALChemy	21-Aug-05/8:04 AM
The beliefs we're talking about are unknown things. Things that haven't been proven. If they were proven they'd be truths. But even things science says are truths can and sometimes have been proven to be untrue. So the quality of belief and truth are simular (I'm talking about truth in practice in our society definition / as apposed to the irreversible truth as a concept definition). Basically I'm saying if you want to change someone's mind about what they believe you must first change their heart. The sword of truth and God's words are words that speak to your heart. The angel is tempting the servant to do something that the servant doesn't believe is God's intention. The sevant isn't sure that the angel is sent by God and asks for proof (the sword of god which is the truth you know in your heart). It's kind of a knock on those so called messenger angels who are supposed to be speaking for God. I don't think God speaks to you vicariously. This probably hasn't cleared things up but at least i gave it a try. I've always considered myself as a bit of a paradox so my confusing you isn't surprising. But I know what I believe even if logic say's it's a contradiction. Jesus was accused of being contradictory too. I think at some point all religions are and yet I'm still religious. Go figure. If you said something that spoke to my heart (as many of your poems have) it could possibly change my belief in something.
Re: a comment on How Angels Sleep by Dovina	21-Aug-05/6:51 AM
"City of Angels" is a movie (Nicholas Cage and Meg Ryan star in it) about an angel (Cage) who falls in love with a doctor (Ryan) and gives up his wings to become human to be with her. The ending in the movie by the way is absolutely hilarious.
Re: tanka(4) by shadows	20-Aug-05/10:07 AM
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Re: a comment on REMEBER by prettyktm	20-Aug-05/9:57 AM
See now that's ironic.
Re: a comment on First by Dovina	20-Aug-05/9:54 AM
And Jesus said "It is easier for zodiac to squeeze through his own asshole than for a woman to get a membership into the great golf courses of heaven."
Re: a comment on More Than The World by XOXScottishgrlXOX	20-Aug-05/9:40 AM
"Of course, "We've all got our own problems" is more correct than either of the two, and has the advantage of being personal, which is a good thing to be when you're praying to God. I don't understand why you don't just say that." I did say that! In my first comment. "But it's the context that makes the grammatical error unacceptable. Prayers should be formal and perfect. So in this poem fix it but in another you may not need to." The making it a personal statement part is a bonus but the poem could survive without it. But as you see I stated from the start that the line was informal and inexcusable for this poem. I only said "everyone has their own problems" would be clearer not that using it makes everthing all better. I think it's ok to use his when it's likely to be only a him or hims. Feminist professors? I prefer feminist professettes. That's a joke for ya. Most of your jokes I get and laugh my ass off to. You must have played this one too deadpan or maybe I was just messin' with ya. I forget it's been so long ago. On a side note, I'll try to grant your wish for you some day. Keep rubbing the lamp.
Re: a comment on How Angels Sleep by Dovina	20-Aug-05/8:58 AM
But what if it's about a man she loved and then lost. People sometimes project their lost loved ones as angels in their minds. Then it takes on a subtler more symbolic meaning.
Re: a comment on How Angels Sleep by Dovina	20-Aug-05/8:50 AM
Beatiful: A word invented by ALChemy meaning full of beat or full of rhythm. Something with rhythm that's beautiful. “She understood he knew her heart.” sounds OK but the repetition of heart sounds a little like Fred Durst trying to rhyme. I was thinking not a change so much as an addition. i.e. "and she knew he understood it's beat."
Re: a comment on Surveyor and Farmer by Dovina	20-Aug-05/8:30 AM
There are some seriously lucky people on your friends list. I think my idea was very affectionate too and (teeheehee) a little dirty ;) Great poem either way. 10+
Re: a comment on The burden of faith by Bobjim	20-Aug-05/7:57 AM
Sorry the first reference I said you mentioned was actually Dovina's. My bad.
Re: a comment on The burden of faith by Bobjim	20-Aug-05/7:54 AM
Imagine 12 men (or maybe 11 men and a woman or heck even 3 men and a baby) were sat down in front of a tree and told that this tree is a manifestation of God. They were then asked to write a poem describing the tree. Some wrote and some didn't and one even hung himself over it. Eventually Three poems were chosen and the rest were either burned, hidden or confiscated and kept from the public by Catholics depending on which conspiracy you’re theorizing. Those 3 poems were then taken by their authors and taught to people in different parts of the world who all spoke different languages. After the authors' deaths they translated the poems into several languages and into many different versions with many different schools of philosophy on their meanings. All this being done under the influential meddling thumb of powerful politicians. Now based on only a recent version of the three poems go into the world’s forests and find me that tree. The real Bible was spoken in the loving words of mothers and father everywhere and passed down generation to generation. I believe Jesus loves me not because the Bible tells me so but because my mother does and I don't really care who or what told her about Jesus.
Re: a comment on The burden of faith by Bobjim	20-Aug-05/7:14 AM
Ex-freaking-actly my point. In the end you still need to rely on faith. Your right about Jesus. Even that tablet with his name on it and Salomon's box were proved to be fakes. I'm familiar with the references you made all though I have many doubts about these works as well. And no I haven't read any of them. The first 2 by choice. The last one because I haven't gotten access to a copy and translation yet. The actual words in the bible have been written and rewritten by all kinds of holy and maybe some unholy men. Why is it that the Dead Sea Scrolls make no mention of the Immaculate Conception and suspiciously the Greeks actually worshiped a goddess who immaculately conceived a child before they changed over to Christianity which then became Catholicism and translated the bible which was then translated again into English? I don't believe in the bible or any other book on a worshiping level. I believe in God and that God's spirit exists in the bible as well as in some other works. I believe that the word of God is not in black or green or red on thin white paper but that the word of God is whispered in your ear by God's spirit as you read the stories that were truly written by mere men. A poem of a rose does not make a rose nor does a book of God make God. God was here before the bible and before words. So if you proved every word in the bible wrong I'd still believe in God and what God stands for. And If I had never heard of God I would only hope that the spirit of God was always present in my soul.
Re: a comment on The Servant and The Messenger by ALChemy	20-Aug-05/6:07 AM
Your right the first six lines do stand out. I think It's the inside rhymes.
Re: a comment on The Servant and The Messenger by ALChemy	20-Aug-05/6:03 AM
Separated niether the Servant or the Messenger are me but together they represent the struggle in me between what I feel to be the truth and what other forces or persons more powerful than I say is the truth. I shun the idea that god would rather speak to us through angels and preachers than simply directly through our own hearts. I believe that belief and truth are inseparable if not one in the same. Today’s belief may be tomorrow’s truth and today's truth may be tomorrow's myth. So I think your first impression was most accurate. The servant say's he simply needs proof that speaks to his heart to change what he currently believes is the righteous path. Don't we all.
Re: a killer world by AM I EVIL?	19-Aug-05/11:12 AM
The only thing more annoying than Billy Corgan is somebody quoting Billy Corgan. If you lose that line I'll move you up a notch. That'll put you at notch one. Sorry I've been waiting a long time to use that line on someone and I figured I couldn't make you any more depressed. I've been in that place before and the only advice I have is get tough and use capital letters when you start sentences.
Re: a comment on Fading.+/ by Lindz14	19-Aug-05/10:52 AM
What balls! I'm impressed and I've got ones the size of watermellons. Besides that gave me my biggest laugh of the day.
Re: Chocolate Bunny by not_a_philosopher	19-Aug-05/10:38 AM
More like a fat nude black man and that white stuff coming out of his penis ain't piss my friend. Bon appétit.
Re: Smells by the_poetess	19-Aug-05/10:32 AM
Kind of Martha Stewart meets Andy Rooney. But it has some good stuff too like the first verse.
Re: Playing The Vibes by impert&ent	19-Aug-05/10:26 AM
What do you mean by ropes "fuming?" around brass.
Re: Playing The Vibes by impert&ent	19-Aug-05/10:20 AM
God I wish I had a yacht. Sounds so relaxing. Then again with my luck I'd get lost or die in a storm. I liked the poem once I figured it out. Another title that might have changed the poems direction: At the Center of the Tsunami. But that's just plain evil isn't it. I think you mean "Plain" not "plane in verse 1. Plain is on the sea-bed. Plane is something you do on the surface as in hydroplane.