Re: a comment on Rocky Road by Dovina	wilco 66.61.101.130	13-Oct-05/12:48 PM
Oh, come one, you know you saw the word tits and instantly got a hard-on.
Re: a comment on Adelaide by wilco	wilco 66.61.101.130	13-Oct-05/12:44 PM
I don't think you're interpreting it as I meant it..but that's a good thing if there's different interpretations.
Re: a comment on Adelaide by wilco	wilco 66.61.101.130	13-Oct-05/12:43 PM
It's a city in Australia.
Re: The End by Caducus	Caducus 172.202.128.95	13-Oct-05/9:35 AM
need to know last line of s4 - is it needed do you thibnk?
Re: a comment on Take heart, you are closer than you know by Bobjim	Bobjim 143.167.79.206	13-Oct-05/7:15 AM
It's not actually Christian. And it's being published by Poetry.com in a book called Eternal Portraits.
Re: a comment on Take heart, you are closer than you know by Bobjim	ALChemy 24.74.101.159	13-Oct-05/6:16 AM
Not me. I'm more than happy for you and your Christian poetry publication fans. No really though who published it? Trust me I'm not the one you should be readying for but maybe you'll luck out.
Re: a comment on Sleep by ALChemy	ALChemy 24.74.101.159	13-Oct-05/5:47 AM
Originally it was written with a sleep/death comparison. Mega cliche huh? I'm just too damn lazy to change more than two lines at a time I guess. It seems like whenever I start a sonnet I get all preachy in the end. I actually think the Jesus of your dreams idea is a good way to describe your dream self. You may be right though that it seems forced into this poem. Probably because it was.
Re: a comment on Take heart, you are closer than you know by Bobjim	Bobjim 143.167.79.206	13-Oct-05/5:37 AM
Do your worst. I'm ready for you.
Re: a comment on I don't rhyme enough, eh? by Niphredil	ALChemy 24.74.101.159	13-Oct-05/5:28 AM
No real arguement from me on this one... Ok. Did you recover from your shock induced heart attack. I think rap is a little closer to what strait out liturature poetry is than the more music driven forms. So it seems to be the one most commonly agued nowadays. I saw two poets aguing it on CSPAN's Book TV and I thought the same thing. Duh. The internet has revived poetry as written word somewhat but soon that will fade away also. Like a slow draining of water out of a fish's bowl. Just curious I guess were you guys think poetry is going to go next. Sorry that's another way over done topic. Nevermind. Don't mind me I'm a little buzzed on cough syrup right now. I appologize again profusely.
Re: a comment on dictates of whose travel agency? by A. Nomaly	zodiac 212.118.19.155	13-Oct-05/2:24 AM
I noticed you still didn't drop the apostrophe from dictates.
Re: monday by ay deee	zodiac 212.118.19.155	13-Oct-05/2:22 AM
This is really pretty good. I'd start from the second stanza and tighten it up a little. For example, I was drafted and unprepared Or something such. Nice job.
Re: Rocky Road by Dovina	zodiac 212.118.19.155	13-Oct-05/2:06 AM
The last two lines don't make up for the rest being practically not-English.
Re: a comment on Tonight’s Halloween by TLRufener	zodiac 212.118.19.155	13-Oct-05/2:04 AM
By your diction I would think you're Meat Loaf.
Re: a comment on I don't rhyme enough, eh? by Niphredil	zodiac 212.118.19.155	13-Oct-05/1:59 AM
People who think poetry should be something different are illiterates. I don't personally know any of these people, though the people I know are always talking about how they hate those other people. Personally, I doubt whether they exist. I've always heard hip-hop used to describe both the music and the lifestyle. I think it's because white people (including most of my professors) are more comfortable saying hip-hop than rap. I don't know why. It used to seem like a big deal to me that the world had "turned away from poetry" and so on and rap and pop music were the only poetic forms people paid attention to, but it doesn't now. Consider: 1) Originally, all poetry was set to music; it WAS music. 2) During times when access to singers/reciters or recorded music was limited, written poetry was a decent substitute. 3) But during those times there was no diminishment in the poetry-as-music movement, it was just hard to get at your isolated manor house. 4) Since recorded and live music became more available in the end of the 1800s, interest in written poetry has been diminished. Every generation since then has considered its musicians poets, and every generation has scandalized at the thought that people were paying attention to music-poetry more than nonmusic-poetry. Whatever. Here is a nowhere near complete list of the music people have had this same debate about: - Opera - Cole Porter and Broadway light opera - Jazz - Beat-style jazz - early rock - The Beatles - Bob Dylan - most other 60s rock - Led Zeppelin - early and most other rap - Bossa Nova and latin music - Grunge lyrics If you consider some of the genres on this list, DMX (actually, I think I meant Run DMC and was tired) isn't such a bad choice. Conclusion: Silly thing to argue about, nowhere near original, and not going away. The best thing to say is all music is poetry. Most is bad poetry.
Re: a comment on The Servant and The Messenger by ALChemy	zodiac 212.118.19.155	13-Oct-05/1:42 AM
For the gazillionth time, it fits the theory because the theory was made to fit the circumstances. Take the following circumstances: - a dishwasher explosion, - Wonder Years re-runs, - prison gang-rape, - the 1984 Olympic games, - water on Mars. A good scientist can make a theory that incorporates and explains all of these phenomena. Let's call this theory "Jimboism". If a slightly dim person studies Jimboism, she'll be astonished that dishwashers, re-runs, gang-rape, the 1984 Olympics, and water all act UNFAILINGLY according to this theory. She'll tend to credit the dishwasher, etc, with an extra importance, with some magic synchronicity. None of these things deserve that, the scientist does. Do you see yet? You'd have done better to say (as you almost have) that calling faith, etc, a product of evolution is important because it relieves you of responsibility for faith. Not only can you be excused for trying to be faithless and then rushing desparately back to God, but you know that people who try not to have faith ARE IN FACT UNNATURAL AND ACTING AGAINST THEIR NATURE. And some other cool evolution-produced traits fall into the same category! Like, - Killing in self-interest, - Stealing from non-relations to provide for your genetic line, - Eating fatty foods if you're a woman, - Being vain and appearance-centered if you're a man or woman, - Being horny and desperate if you're a man or woman. So hey, that IS pretty useful! But wait, wasn't there a point in history where evolution made pre-humans have grasping toes for a specific purpose related to survival of the species? And don't we NOT have grasping toes now? So doesn't that mean that characteristics "made by evolution" - even including faith, reproduction, and fat-eating - can become non-essential or obsolete, and therefore our own responsibilities again? Judges' ruling: NO SCORE FOR YOU.
Re: a comment on The Servant and The Messenger by ALChemy	zodiac 212.118.19.155	13-Oct-05/1:23 AM
2) Have I defined John?
Re: a comment on The Servant and The Messenger by ALChemy	Dovina 209.247.222.94	12-Oct-05/6:00 PM
Nonsense!
Re: a comment on The Servant and The Messenger by ALChemy	Dovina 209.247.222.94	12-Oct-05/5:58 PM
I agree with your thesis. Saying that something is made by evolution gives it importance because it says that it fits a theory, and in fitting, the thing can be understood in the context of that theory. For example, if faith developed through evolution, then the broader concepts of evolution can be applied to faith. For exaample, we could say in that case that faith may then increase our ability to survive and reproduce, which would help to perpetuate faith in future generations.
Re: Sleep by ALChemy	Dovina 209.247.222.94	12-Oct-05/5:45 PM
I think you'd do better without the Jesus references - messiah and Nazareth. A naritave on sleep is ok in itself. The comparison to soul sleep is good.
Re: Hell is spring by INTRANSIT	Dovina 209.247.222.94	12-Oct-05/5:41 PM
I like the kinky comparisons: kawasaki green > buds, vile snapdragons, flowers of construction barrel orange. But why would you vow to be knocked cold by her? Maybe you're too into the mechanized unreality of spring.