You're wrong on both counts. Neither of them are symbols of death. ** TEST ** 1. Show a crucifix to almost anyone in the modern world - preferably Christian, but really anyone will do. 2. Ask them, what does this represent to you? Q: Would you say the crucifix/cross (sic) is still a symbol of death even though almost no one in the world has thought that for centuries? Q2: Would you say it still is because it's a symbol of death for you, Dovina? Q3: Would you ever consider writing a poem about something you HADN'T read on an email forward?

That's not the difference at all. You believe that the truth of particles exists. richa believes that the truth does exist and particles is just someone's best guess about it. Do you see the difference? I bet not.

ibid. And way to answer my questions!

No, no. Of course I understand. It's just funny you said "I can only speak from a sexual position." Kind of gave me, you know, a mental picture.

1) The sexual position. (cf. http://www.poemranker.com/poem-details.jsp?id=120393) 2) Maybe I'm wrong. I know! I'll ask. Would you consider yourself more in the lines of Asaph, God, the wicked (ie, also ironic quoter of Asaph), or the pure-hearted? Now, I know you're going to say: none of them, I'm to openminded. That's crap. If you weren't sympathetic to at least one (and probably only one) of them, you wouldn't have any reason to have posted/plagiarized this. Now I know you're going to say, I don't operate by the principles of reason, so there. That's crap, too. Sorry for acting so presumptuous about the whole thing, but I'm going to the beach tomorrow and don't want to drag out the process of you giving a real answer over, who knows, weeks. Please, give it some thought.

"Two minds open to the same proposition belong to the same person" is Dovina's Bum Incrowde Theory #1.

Incredible. You outrageously accuse -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. of having no response, then when he is kind enough to point out that his response had been glaring at you for several hours, you post this obstinate, wet, unbelievably feminine non-response. "I understand what you are saying and disagree for reasons I have stated." Yes you stated some reasons, but those were posted before my rejoinder, which pointed out your failure, and which you seem unwilling to address because, for whatever reason, it has been deflected from your brain glandes. Now who's being closed minded? It isn't kindly -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. who has no response. It's you. You fail. Good Christ, you fail.

I had no delusion that the comments pertained to the poem. You think the narrator is a dunce, and I could agree or not agree, depending on which position I wish to view the poem from. Since you do not believe truth exists, or at least it appears you do not, this kind of poem seems silly to you. All I ask is that you consider it from several viewpoints besides you own.

Jesus christ I hope you don't think all these comments actually had anything to do with your poeme. The poeme takes the voice of a dunce claiming to know the difference between good and bad. The dunce narrator does not have to be correct in his/her theories in any way. S/he is a dunce. I thought that was obvious in both versions.

I wrote the poem. I had nobody in mind, only the common practice of wearing a cross about the neck.