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26-Jun-03/5:15 PM
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I am interested in the true motives behind this site. My suggestion, though perhaps stated before by several other members can never be said enough. Those who see themselves as Gods of poetry should infact nurture those they view as artistically declined instead of slaughtering their confidence. Many writers come to the site seeking mentors. I know that youthful idealism and teenage poems about pain often agrivate older poets who feel they have no time for cliches, yet is not the main issue here the fact that these teens are actually using art as an outlet? We cannot allow art to be frightenned away from society by those who mock instead of teach. It's rather unsettling to hear some obviously mature adults telling others they want to buttfuck a child. These are not instraments of criticism, these are threats. Please be an artist.
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How dare you suggest that the Gods of Poetry descend to the level of the Christian God and create cults of worshipping adorers going about saying 'Thank you' and singing their praises because they were taught? Pah. Slaughter away, I claims. Those who aren't actually 'Artistically declined' (what IS this plitical correct bullshit doing coming from someone who wants people to be artists?) will survive no matter what the Gods do to them. May their names be praised, Amen.
P.S.: What's wrong with buttfucking children?
It's certainly not art.
Oh and by the way the ones who are good do offer advice. I see it on a daily basis. Of course you have dipshits who just blast away but it's better than nothing.
For someone who so dislikes the christian god, you sure do act quite a lot like him.
Well.. look, im seventeen and ive recently joined, and i dont feel slaughtered.. though ive stepped on some toes while walking around blindly, but ive found mostly good advice and mentorship so far. Then again, i dont think my poetry fits the teenage cliche "art" that tends to arise in our midsts seemingly from no where like a fart..
Secondly, most teenages, once criticised, become extremely offended, and rant about how they write to express their emotions, blah blah blah... So it isnt surprising if these folks see teenage poetry and decide to make it a form of entertainment.. can't stand the same crap comming out the childs mouth, so mock him, piss on the cloned piece of shit-art, and walk merrily away.. Trust me, teenage poetry doesnt want advice to improve their skill or poem, they want to be heard, and praised for blabbing their emotions with corny lines of rusty rhyme iced on top with grimy fingerprints and sticky pages (Playboy cut out ransom notes) I agree with them, even though i am a teenager, that each of these shitheads should slowly choke...
i AM a teen, thank you (14). I only feel that we should commend all art so as to insure its existance in society. I also believe that although the adult poets on this site are excellent, they too had to begin somewhere. Everyone goes through artistic stages, and it's completely hippocritical to become annoyed with someone who is in a similar stage to one you've been in. No, everyone is not a poet, however everyone posesses the need to express their feelings. We should not spurn that. Ridiculing show of emotion is what leads to violence in teens.
They're free to express them, but must they enforce them on others? Beautiful and harshly-felt sentiments are at the root of all bad poetry, as dear old Oscar said rather better than I. And I am not hippocritical. I have never, in all my life, expressed any sort of a criticism on hippopotami. The hippo is a noble creature, and quite about criticism, unless you REALLY want it to chew you up.
Writing a poem and enforcing feelings unto others are two separate entities: you can read a poem, but not be forced to empathize. i know i am generalizing when i write these comments, but i am targeting a specific group. I appologize to those offended. Art is perfection; it can be relative to the artist, the viewer, the criticizer: art will never die, i assure you. However, society's perception of art will diminish if we hold grudges against those we view as less talented than us. When people recieve comments like "you're an idiot", (i realize there are a limited percentage of people who say this) it turns people off to art. That's where the conservatives(agian, generalizing) get their fuel; that is where we're killing art. I do however, completely concur that hippos are blameless animals due to their interminable ignorance.
Theres a large difference between what society thinks about art, and what an artist _KNOWS_ about art... Also, theres a difference between artists who have less talent than most and people that _THINK_ they are artists. Taking teenage poetry as an example, 80% of it is artless.. Because when you read alot of it, you realize that the same things are being said over and over with a limited amount of creativity. Writing to express emotion is fine, get a journal. But if someone wants to be a poet, its intelligent for them to think of how to creatively express their emotions.. thats the difference between teenagers with artistic talent and teenagers writing in rage and raw emotion, having no second thought as to how the resulting "poem" could be better presented, worded, and styled.
Talking about certain stages an artist goes through, sure, I went through this stage, it lasted maybe three days and then I realized that my poems were childish third grade homework papers. Being fourteen, i got tired of writing poetry that people thought was written by an eight year old quickly. (thank god) If we start to commend people for non artistic crap, you will find that art will become a void of garbage, polluted with large amounts of corny emotional slush.. a long and far cry from "perfection".
I think that if all "art" is commended, art will die for sure.
"i AM a teen" And what, I'm not? -chuckle- ok, ok.. commend _ALL_ "art"? Kid, what the hell do you think art is? you need to seriously consider what the word art means, and whether or not you really understand it. I know that the first inclination for you will be to say that you know what art is. You won't even think about it before responding with such an answer.
Also, poetry is not teen counseling ok? get that clear QUICK. Sadly, I have to say that dark angel would probly serve a usefull purpose: to explain to you why your comment about teenage violence is in itself a stupid belch of immature thinking. I feel dirty saying it, but I can't avoid that statement without feeling like i didnt respond to the main problem i have with this fourteen year olds message. I predict that i will soon hear DA taunting me.. oh well.
Glad to see so rightfully brainwashed, indeed, i've changed my adolescent ways. My poetry's conforming and changing into you. I'm utterly embarrassed for ever thinking peace of mind, and universal acceptance. Never again. I truly hope DA doesnt taunt you, we wouldn't want not to fit in. *chuckle*lol, I have a lot to learn. If i had truly found the real world yet, I'd be so utterly dilapidated that all i'd ever be able to do is sit at home by my computer poking fun at 14 year olds who are trying to change it (the world, not the computer[haha]), but you've never been 14 now, have you?
For you it should be easier to commend _ALL_ art, since your definition encompasses such a narrow and paltry sector.
What the hell? I dont want to "fit in" you stupid little insect.
I want to improve my poetic ability, and i also want to see how good i can get at it, hopefully with the help of talented poets from this site. I dont have some goddamn need to feel accepted by a community, I have a real community in the real world in which I belong to. Which is the universe of my duplex with 4-5 inhabitants: Robert: my best friend and brother from another mother and father. Gemini: The puerto rican rappin pimp which is brother to my adopted sister Isabel aka Izzy. Chris: The adopted brother of gemini, aspiring basketball star and womanizer. Nicole: The neighbor from two duplexes down, who has been a close friend of mine for about two years. She also at times, nearly, almost, lives here since shes a common sight with the overused excuse of sleeping over. These people are the community in which im accepted as friend and this community has slowly evolved into a strange rogue family of rebels and outcasts. So, trust me, i dont need an internet website to find a place to fit in, you fucking little ingrate. And I have been fourteen, and I did and still do wish to change the world. But even then, I would never think that I'd attempt to do it by defending teenage poetry. Why? Because I knew then that such an adventure would have as much to do with changing the world as dating a whore has to do with making love to a wife. Also, my definition does not encompass a narrow sector you idiot. Poetry has rules and requirements to follow and some certain aspects which much be studied. To be a poem or poet one must know and understand the subtle art of poetry and the rules it has. A couple of these has to do with: Being creative with expression, emotion, imagery, form, and creatively using language. When some nitwit writing out his emotions like some bleeding whore dances onto this site and stamps it as a poem, its a fucking insult to poetry and poets. Now you want us to react to these idiots with kind commentry and acceptance? Even to help those who defend their so called art stupidly without bothering to understand why they were commented harshly? FUCK YOU. Thats what I have terribly and sadly been reduced to uttering to your pimple ridden face. Yes, you have ALOT to learn kid, want to wave your stick in my direction aye.. watch out, or ill take out my goddamned axe of disgusted joy and decapitate your sickly head.
exactly man
well said
Yup, i do agree with that opinion, i enjoyed writing the response, and after looking over it, i had an orgasmic rush of joy, followed by feeling complete and whole.
No, art needs pruning back a bit for it to properly flourish. And what leads to violence in teens is not ridicule, it is the environment.
Smacking children teaches that violence is acceptable to get your own way. Video games, endless runs of wars providing an environment where the parts of the brain involved in processing violence are always activated. Long distance weaponry, if you had to get close to someone to hurt them the natural human emotions of empathy would kick in. How an individual reacts to riducule is conditioned by such factors
Oh, what nonsense. This one killed me: "Long distance weaponry, if you had to get close to someone to hurt them the natural human emotions of empathy would kick in." Hahahahaha. So how do you explain all of the centuries of warfare that preceded this one?
wars, who is talking about wars,
look at america, I think more people get killed with guns than would die if they had to fight it out.
True motives? I thought it might be a neat idea. And good programming exercise. And might make me popular. And such.
So I'm a loser. Shoot me. :)
*BLAM*
Sorry about "Imagine (nentwined)", you're cool.
No if you are a loser shoot us!
WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS !
ITS NOT THE FAULT OF THE MORE HIGHLY COMPETENT WRITERS TO ASSIST THOSE WHO SUCK AT POETRY. THATS LIKE SAYING DAVID BECKHAM SHOULD TEACH ME FOOTBALL BECAUSE HES MUCH BETTER AT IT THAN I AM, OR SOME GIRL I SHAGGED ONCE WHO WAS BRILLIANT AT IT TO SHOW ALL THOSE GIRLS AFTER I SHAGGED WHO WERE LIKE A SACK OF SPUDS. I AGREE SOME COMMENTS ARE SPITEFUL AND AGREE THAT WHEN IT GETS PERSONAL THEY SHOULD BE BANISHED, BUT THEY'LL ONLY SIGN ON AS ANOTHER USER ANYWAY. GET A LIFE AND WIPE YOUR OWN ASS
Thank you Jim
i think this site is just a nice idea to share ideas. If a suggestion strikes a chord use it. Whether it comes from Mcgonnagal or homer
Alright let me explain this nicer than Dreamer did. While I might some what agree that cliche teenage poets are given a hard time, I think that this site handles it well. There are wolves in the world and there are sheep(and every now and then a bunny convincing everybody else he is a wolf). The sic and weak sheep(in this case young would be poets) and will be eaten, by the wolves(this case the "Gods of poetry"). This teachs the sheep to be stronger. The weak wolves will be taken care of by there own or even possibly by an angry sheep or two, but for the most part Young writers are being taught a lesson here that is taught in the real world. THAT EITHER THEY SUCK IT UP AND DO BETTER OR THEY DIE. How they are taught this lesson may vary, but its pretty much the same. I am 19 years old. I started off, an ignorant, young visionary. I wrote about emotions and feelings and my pain the same way every teen does(I'd like to think I was better than most but more than likely not). Now I'm one of the better writer's on this site in my own eyes(Then again I am very arrogant but at Least I'm honest about it). The writers of some of the harsher comments are expressing how they feel about the poems they read. If its Cliche or very Angst driven then they call it shit because they think its shit. If its good, but rubs them the wrong way, they will let you know about it. They tell you how they felt about it. They aren't trying to fit you into a mold, saying you have to do things this way, or you can't do things that way. They are saying that to them your writing sucks. You can develop as an artist any way you want. Look at the best list and see the many different styles used in writing them. Now then also look at the worst list. There is no one way to write poetry or paint a picture, but if every one else is painting a sailboat, then who the fuck wants to look at the quality of a painting of a sailboat? As for the buttfucking a child thing.. Well some of us are just weird and presume others have our same sense of humor. Its plain to see they don't. Doesn't mean that we're not going to tell the joke anyway. So I'll continue to be an artist, and will ask you not to think of art as something to be ewwed and ahhed over, but like books, or movies, or even video games. Some rock your socks off, some are just okay, some find a whole new suck big hairy orge balls, and others are just so cheesy that you either can't stand to watch them or you laugh your ass off.
ERRATUM : 'The sic (sic) and weak sheep'
Sorry. Sometimes you just forget where you are in a rant.
Don't Lie. You enjoy it.
No, really, I don't. You are, and I mean this sincerely, the person who has given me the least pleasure and the most tedium on poemeranker. You're just so... featureless, but you insist on posting 10x more than anyone, including horus8, which has to be some kind of record since he is logged on 24/7.
Since you plainly think of yourself as a poemeranker 'regular', you probably aren't going to leave, so how about a compromise: Every time you write a comment, before you post it, ask yourself these three questions: a) Is this an annoying, pointless attempt to ingratiate myself with the adult poetes? b) Will anyone actually read this, or will it just take up 10 miles of space on comment-recent.jsp because they can see from the first five tedium-ridden words exactly what the rest is going to say? c) Could I post this on my shitty livejournal instead of defecating it all over Poemeranker? If the answer to any of those is Yes, instead of pressing "submit", press "close" and take a five-minute rest from poemeranker. Maybe you could enjoy a refreshing fruit smoothie! Great! See ya at 7 then! Cool. Cool. yep. See ya. Cheers mate. Right. Yep. Love you. Ok. I will. Bye.
You know D.A. I fucking love you. You give me a reason to get up in the morning. I check my email and usually for like 6 months, I could depend on a comment from you. Where the hell did you go. I missed you. In my view you are the greatest poet ever born. Literally a brain box, And I'm not just saying that cause I'm drunk as fuck, No dude I mean it. Thanks for the suggestion on my commenting but I think I'll stick with the method I've already got. Want to know why? Cause It works for me. No other reason in the world. So we'll stick with no deal, and I'll just let you prove my moronic nature to the world. Cool with you? If not too bad.
Do shut up dear boy.
Aww.. Does somebody need a hug?
i believe that would be you.
You can't aloof someone when you are an attention-starved 17-year-old who dies his hair zany colours. You are a very dull person and I suggest you stop posting. I know it's hard to accept: with a wacky, original, unique name like "pinkfluffybunnyrabbitofdoom", how could you be anything but the life of the party? But no, really, do shut up.
look you homosexual twit.. IM 17.. hes 19.. atleast use the memory you got with that brain.. dont get confused, it makes you look silly. next, shut up. forever. you've become boring to a point of insanity, it makes everyone feel schizo..
now, sometimes you have a point, most times your just a little whiner with an arrogant taunt dance that is lewd, rude, and ignorant. Its self-defeating, because you have been digging a hole so deep for a grave, that people arent even noticing anymore.. your just ignored and laughed at.. mostly pitied i think. Next, you havent seem to have written anything that has any artistic value.. you already failed my friend.. you know why? all you are now is a shit talker.. not a writer.. you failed as a poet.. and as a person. its sad. really. just float away, like the pile of shit that you are, and ill be happy to flush you.
Next, you havent seem to have written anything that has any artistic value.. --in a long while. just wanted to correct that one.
"An arrogant taunt dance that is lewd, rude, and ignorant."
Truly the dance of kings.
Fuck royalty.
I shot the pope, Shot him up with a huge amount of dope and shoved his scepter up his ass.
since when do you shoot up dope?
erm.. that mushroom of yours didnt process the info correctly.
i said i SHOT THE POPE UP WITH DOPE.. also, dope can refer to a variety of drugs, including HEROIN. but if you really want to know the substances i have ingested/snorted/smoked/injected in my lifetime, then heres a list: [ing: ingested - inj: injected] weed (smoked, ing) shrooms (ing) lsd (ing) cocaine (snorted) methamphetamine (smoked, snorted) opium (smoked) heroin (iv inj.) mdma (ing) mda (ing) dxm (ing) 2ct7 (ing) amt (ing) 5meodipt (ing) 5meodmt (smoked) mescaline (san pedro cactus, ingested) ketamine (snorted and IM inj.) dpt (snorted) datura (ing) salvia divinorum (smoked) ghb (ing)
Congratulations. Are we supposed to be impressed? Hey , look at me, I'm, like, really hardcore. And bohemian too! Like, I'm the only person that's ever taken SO MANY drugs. And , like, man, that really , er, means something to, ewr, someone. Probably.
not me. it means something to me if you can write a poem. and this laddie has decided he'd rather drool than write.
what ever you say.
im satisfied with my drooooool, so eat me.
yes. worship me, the drool and supremedoper (hey, maybe ill write more about it!! why not!? I WANT YOU TO GAZE IN AWE AT MY DROOG DROOL POETRY!!!!!)
splonk.
I baked myself a hash cake, read the list of drugs you have taken
swallowed it whole
thats going to be one good trip then.
have fun, and stop harrassing the 7-11 guy.
Can't I? Hmmm... Its kinda hard to sit and listen to somebody can't even get my age right, though I am impressed you know about my adventures with hair dye. I think that if I were as dull as you say I am, then you wouldn't even bother to say anything at all to me. I know I know, I should shut up. Cause you expected me to comment. Damn, I am so predictable. Oh well, I never did like listening to instrutions.
"I think that if I were as dull as you say I am, then you wouldn't even bother to say anything at all to me."
If you knew the first thing about -=Dark_Angel=- and his adwentures on Poemeranker, you would know that his mission is to cavort with rascals, scoundrels, slugabeds and top-notch dullards, all for the sake of a golden plum. And you, my son, you are that plum. Godspeed.
And you, my friend, are a FAGGOT.
and everytime you call me pretentious, i consider it a compliment since it comes from the most pompous bitch in the entire village. And your a flea bag too. cunt. [Btw, i love you.]
You must realise that this can only end one of two ways, and since you've been around long enough to make Option A (posting in a comment a big rant about how you came to poemranker with hopes and dreams of a magical place where mature poetes would all work together to encouragise each other and build a brighter future for poetry but discovered that it was filled with naughty, rude people who didn't like your poetry and told you you were an idiot so now you've decided to leave poemranker forever and never come back, and then reposting the rant as a poeme of your own, and then leaving, and then logging in a couple of days later to see what the response was and maybe making a couple more comments or changing your username to 'unsubscribe', imagining it to be a magical username of self-destruction or something) unlikely, we are left with Option B. Option B is that you will eventually get bored of replying to every comment I make with 'hahahaha everything you say prooves that your an idiot, everyone on this sight hates you roflmfaoafensjfdnvxzlkdnvios', and then little by little, even as you fight it within yourself, you will come to love and worship -=Dark_Angel=-. Everything -=Dark_Angel=- says will cause you to ejaculate praise all over the site, and reproductive mucus into your pants.
The bonus option is to change your mind and decide you hate -=Dark_Angel=- again, and then continue to ricochet wildly between adoration and dismissive contempt, like some kind of compulsively lying, spazzed-off-your-tits-on-drugs, deranged Y2K Harris. It has already begun.
supreme dreamer option: be apathetic, smile, continue to play with the cute one until he becomes infected with boredom and then drop it all to smoke some meth and weed with his friends.
oh, and guess what: I DO GET IT. :P
Nice one DA a fat lonely girl.
Maybe if you met her you could pull her hair. (Or she could beat you up)
While you peek out of the fridge and tug frantically into an engineer's hat.
BTW... its cute that you had to click the x button two times to get it right. CUTE!!! your adorable.. like a puppy.
Top 3 signs you're trying too hard to make people think you don't care:
1. You post 'lmao', 'lol', after everything. 2. You call everything 'cute' 3. Etc
Faiges.
floater.
Currently David Blaine is lying in a perspex box with no food for 44 days. The British people realise he's a shyster, just out for publicity, so passers by have taken to throwing eggs, golf balls and other things at him. This is a bit like poemranker - people have an inbuilt radar for bullshit, and won't hold back when they detect it. And this is a good thing, by the way. Poemranker has a character all of its own.
So, you're saying we're all David Blaine in a box sometimes? Heaven forfend. Throw an egg for those of us chortling on this side of the pond.
Good poems, I recently wrote a poem named Scandanivian Counterparts and I was really quite proud of it, but I would like some feedback from some of the seasoned poemrankers out there. Could some of you please look at it (except Nicholas Jones and Tarquin Del Boy TOilet) Thanks
Well, this certainly is the gayest page on poemranker.
Yes, it is. Well apart from all the gay deleted ones that are still floating around in relational purgatory.
Oy Vey
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