replying on Separation by Dovina
13 Feb 2005, 3:26 AM
I'm still not about to rush to judgments. I've thought Dovina was hypatia for some time, but then I remembered that hypatia came on this site talking about (a) logic, but badly, and then (b) how poems don't need logic, she was just going to write poems using the language of logic for her own unfathomable purposes so all the people criticising her for (a) could figure out where to shove it. Until she went and deleted everything and vanished. The idea of her doing it all over again in exactly the same way was - and is - simply mindboggling. If Dovina is hypatia, she probably thinks we all knew who she was from the beginning and have just restarted our old personal attacks on her. Dovina, I'm telling you, if it's true I didn't know. I just really have a problem with people's floundering illogic.
replying on Separation by Dovina
10 Feb 2005, 1:26 AM
re: "You missed completely that this is a story, not a didactic presentation of grand statements."
We tend to do that with your poems. That is an honest and apt criticism. So there.
And for that matter, what do you mean by "honest and apt" criticism anyway?
We tend to do that with your poems. That is an honest and apt criticism. So there.
And for that matter, what do you mean by "honest and apt" criticism anyway?
replying on Separation by Dovina
10 Feb 2005, 1:06 AM
Is Dovina really hypatia?
If so, I'm flabbergasted. And truly sorry.
If so, I'm flabbergasted. And truly sorry.
replying on A Thing I Must Do by Dovina
10 Feb 2005, 12:59 AM
Whatever. Let me give you a free piece of advice: You tend to mangle language. Stop it. Anyone will tell you "reflects poorly on your kind" doesn't mean anything close to "merely" or "one of a kind".
replying on A Thing I Must Do by Dovina
9 Feb 2005, 6:03 AM
"You see, since it's not obvious to you, the cliche "one of a kind" is grosely and always wrong for obvious reasons."
Are you trumped? Yes, you are.
Are you trumped? Yes, you are.
replying on Separation by Dovina
9 Feb 2005, 5:34 AM
Don't give in so easily, richa. She's full of beans and knows it.
DOVINA: I guess you're just prejudice and don't know anything about Jesus and blah blah blah.
ZODIAC: I was raised Catholic in the Biblethumping South, went to Catholic school for 10 years, while also attending fundamentalist (and every other denomination's) youth groups, revivals and such (for the chicks, of course.) My master's thesis spends a good deal of time on Flannery O'Connor's religion. I've read the Bible cover to cover about a hundred times, including college courses as both an undergrad and grad student. I researched with the single most respected Bible scholar in North America. And I live within sight of Nazareth. So I guess you can say I've absorbed the culture pretty well.
DOVINA: I guess you're just prejudice and don't know anything about Jesus and blah blah blah.
ZODIAC: I was raised Catholic in the Biblethumping South, went to Catholic school for 10 years, while also attending fundamentalist (and every other denomination's) youth groups, revivals and such (for the chicks, of course.) My master's thesis spends a good deal of time on Flannery O'Connor's religion. I've read the Bible cover to cover about a hundred times, including college courses as both an undergrad and grad student. I researched with the single most respected Bible scholar in North America. And I live within sight of Nazareth. So I guess you can say I've absorbed the culture pretty well.
replying on Separation by Dovina
9 Feb 2005, 5:25 AM
Al-nafus (or, for Palestinians, nafish - written: اÙÙÙس) means "soul", "breath", and "self". I don't know where he got all those other sounds from, but I'm guessing, probably not Arabic.
on a scene in american ghetto by cowmoo
7 Feb 2005, 12:45 AM
"beakniks" - Great.
on Lust, and the Sad Soul by woodstock20000
7 Feb 2005, 12:43 AM
You mean "It shudders in its own immortality." And "its" in the next line, too.
"wonders" should be "wanders". And you can't wander "along" a place. You can wander along a promenade, the bank of a winding creek, or nearly anything else commonly understood as having length. A "place" does not.
"wonders" should be "wanders". And you can't wander "along" a place. You can wander along a promenade, the bank of a winding creek, or nearly anything else commonly understood as having length. A "place" does not.
on Ann & Dan & I by Goad
7 Feb 2005, 12:37 AM
I wonder if you've seen this: http://www.poemranker.com/poem-details.j
replying on Satan's Pillar: The Wisdom of Heresy. by SupremeDreamer
6 Feb 2005, 2:40 AM
How many real deathbeds have you seen?
I'm not saying I could trump you or anything, I've just been under the impression that most people on deathbeds are unconscious, drug-addled, and rather bad-smelling. If you've been reading one of these as religious inclination, please let me know.
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zodiac
I'm not saying I could trump you or anything, I've just been under the impression that most people on deathbeds are unconscious, drug-addled, and rather bad-smelling. If you've been reading one of these as religious inclination, please let me know.
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zodiac
replying on Satan's Pillar: The Wisdom of Heresy. by SupremeDreamer
6 Feb 2005, 2:37 AM
It's obvious to anyone that -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I. doesn't take issue with God, nor even his alter-ego Jesu. Who the fuck would?
Oh, right. You would.
He probably just takes issue with people's bumbling notions about God, like everybody does from time to time. So you're basically just failing to make the same distinction you accused me of failing to make on your poem "Psalm of Wonder". And, incidentally, showing the same lack of comprehension which haunts pretty much all of your God poems. Want to criticize people? Go right ahead! Want to criticize God? You'd do better shoving fiery coals up your snoot right now and saving yourself a wait. And besides, everyone knows God just trumps at all criticism.
Oh, right. You would.
He probably just takes issue with people's bumbling notions about God, like everybody does from time to time. So you're basically just failing to make the same distinction you accused me of failing to make on your poem "Psalm of Wonder". And, incidentally, showing the same lack of comprehension which haunts pretty much all of your God poems. Want to criticize people? Go right ahead! Want to criticize God? You'd do better shoving fiery coals up your snoot right now and saving yourself a wait. And besides, everyone knows God just trumps at all criticism.
replying on Save our Self(revised to be a trek into the vent tent) by Crakyamuni
6 Feb 2005, 2:28 AM
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replying on Dying Abroad by zodiac
6 Feb 2005, 1:22 AM
Maybe "wimpling" - an ace word.
on On Being Born by emilyowey
6 Feb 2005, 1:20 AM
Great. Are you really Emily Dickinson?
on DUI Violation by amateurR
6 Feb 2005, 1:19 AM
I like the last line. I would probably rewrite everything else. Try including some poetry along the way, and maybe making a couple of real sentences.
on Clouds by dancin_n_da_moonlite
6 Feb 2005, 1:17 AM
The 'foil' and 'silver lining' part was cool. It doesn't make the rest of the poem worth it, though.
on rear view mirror by damianlow
6 Feb 2005, 1:15 AM
Have I seen you on "Taxicab Confessions"?