Re: a comment on The regrets made me voids by Prince of Void |
30-Sep-05/5:23 AM |
I thought so too, but then I saw this:
www.wholefoodsmarket.com/products/specialty/cheese-selector/index.html
Select Blue-veined Cheeses. Scroll down.
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Re: Electric Light by cyan9 |
29-Sep-05/6:14 AM |
Most of this poem reminds me of a time I went to a DDR Nostalgia rave in Stuttgart while buzzed blind on gluwein. Ace.
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Re: a comment on Of the Lady on the Bridge by Verse2Verse |
29-Sep-05/6:06 AM |
Agreed. On a personal note, if the lady on the bridge is a real person, I'll eat a hat.
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Re: Sunrise On The Slag Heap by Caducus |
29-Sep-05/6:04 AM |
I'm left wondering, have you ever read your poems aloud? ... to people? I haven't in years. I wonder if that explains a lot.
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Re: pep talk by ay deee |
29-Sep-05/5:58 AM |
Good up to and including the hairy shirt.
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Re: The regrets made me voids by Prince of Void |
29-Sep-05/5:54 AM |
THE ROGUEFORT MADE ME VOID (Void) by I Like to Void
The Roguefort made me void
While saying (as I like to say) "void"
And getting cold
Cuts for a party at my friend Lloyd's.
As I say, I was getting cold
Cuts when this guy who resembled Freud
Came up with a cheese sampler tin -
I'm only human, though usually I try to avoid
Supermarket samples, owing to the hemorrhoids
I sustained as a result of steroid
Overuse while a roadie for the band Pink Floyd,
Though I'm currently unemployed.
But the hemorrhoids, as I say, are deployed
concentrically around the anal void
Roger Waters still occasionally comes
to plumb
As I mumble "void", and again "void",
As the others have tried so
The silence of void filled us over again
In hundred miles green and blue yards.
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Re: Awakening by Quarton |
29-Sep-05/5:26 AM |
Would you say you have a better grasp on science than most people, including rednecks?
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Re: How Angels Smell by Dovina |
29-Sep-05/5:25 AM |
Utter drivel. Your poems have the power to make you, Dovina, personally, however far you think you're removed by narrative distance and metaphor from their content, look silly as you only could in real life by forgetting to wear pants to a 'Save Killer Asteroids' rally.
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Re: a comment on Rejuvenation by Dovina |
29-Sep-05/5:18 AM |
Yes. I believe I've said thrice now that you're bumbling for assuming that the purpose of any species is continuation, and doubly so for thinking that by not admitting that what you're really saying is "the purpose of any species is continuation" you're somehow getting around that. Still not getting it? Try this:
Saying the purpose of a species is to reproduce in order to continue is THE SAME THING as saying the purpose of a species is to continue.
If you're going to argue with something, argue with that, at least.
Or on second thought, don't. Just please, please, please for once in your life listen to either -=Dark_Angel=- or me. The "purpose" of a hammer is to drive in nails - we all know that. However, I own a hammer which has never driven in nails but has, for the entirety of its existence, been a doorstop. Does this mean the hammer's existence is wasted? Does it mean the hammer has failed to accomplish its purpose, or that it has bumbled off the path in pursuit of a WRONG purpose? No, of course not. Especially since, as far as my house is concerned and probably even farther, the only thing determining a hammer's purpose is I, me, zodiac (and Mrs zodiac, of course. She rules.)
Are we agreed to this point? Good. Now extend the metaphor to a human living in the universe. Questions:
1) Who is the "zodiac" in the larger, universal metaphor?
2) That is, who is defining species' purpose like I (or hammer manufacturers, if you will,) define my hammer's purpose?
3) God?
4) Do you really think so?
5) If no one except the person living in the universe (or me using my hammer) decides what the purpose of life (or hammering) is, can it not really be anything we want it to?
6) If an evolutionary scientist (or some hammer expert) tried to tell me what the purpose of my life (or hammer) was, I'd probably hammer his fucking eggy head. I know this isn't a question.
7) In short, don't you seem kind of off your rocker on this?
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Re: a comment on Rejuvenation by Dovina |
25-Sep-05/7:39 AM |
Firstly, your responses to -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I.'s sarcasm are unfailingly to ironically treat his obvious misrepresentations as if they were true. What do you think he's doing? Please give it a rest.
Second, you're still not getting it. This, if I may, is your argument: The purpose of specieses is to continue. The purpose of specieses is to fulfill their purpose of continuing by reproducing. Who says so? Evolution herself says so.
Now, please consider: Who or what REALLY says the purpose of specieses is to continue? Yes, the theory we've made up to identify features PRESENTLY EXISTING SPECIESES have in common (i.e., the theory of evolution) says so. Obviously. A theory made by the cleverest people around in order to describe reality actually holds true for almost every situation. Especially when it's such a simple theory as "All creatures currently surviving on earth have in common that they survive, and have certain specialized skills that have allowed them to do so."
Even if you don't get the forgoing, get this: I do not believe the purpose of human beings is to reproduce. I certainly don't believe my purpose is to reproduce. I believe my purpose for living is to someday make you see the error of at least one of your ways. This can change at any time. I also believe that if humans were designed specifically and only in order to ensure the continuation of humanity, we'd do a lot better at it.
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Re: "46 million babies a year" by -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. |
22-Sep-05/12:19 AM |
How did the Dumpling die? Did He squeeze it too hard? Did it just dry out?
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Re: a comment on Seekers by Dovina |
21-Sep-05/11:43 PM |
Talking about human beings' purpose so much here is giving me epilepsy. Pppleassse evvverrrybooddy stopppppp.
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Re: a comment on Rejuvenation by Dovina |
18-Sep-05/1:40 AM |
That's a moot argument and not about reality. For one, plenty of purposeful people living now are not reproducing. For two, if your answer to the previous sentence is humans (and their organs) came into existence for purposes of reproduction, please ask yourself if you believe organisms have a purpose besides the one they give themselves at any moment, who or what gave them that purpose then, and why you aren't in church this Sunday morning? To wit, reproduction isn't necessary to the continuation of the species for 99.9999% of human beings or flowers. How can you claim reproduction is still a purpose?
To even more wit, it's all kind of backwards anyways: All existing species survived by reproduction, so you say that the purpose of existing species is survival by reproduction. If a species didn't reproduce or, consequently, survive, would you say that it failed at its purpose or that it excelled at a totally different purpose, like going extinct?
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Re: a comment on Seekers by Dovina |
18-Sep-05/1:32 AM |
Surely beavers don't look for randomness or design in dams or much of anything else. Yes, if you asked a beaver what it thought about its dam, it'd probably rock back on its heels a bit and say something like 'Yep, looks good to me.' But if he did, you'd probably want to get your head checked.
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Re: a comment on Seekers by Dovina |
18-Sep-05/1:30 AM |
1) Where does the siding in the poem come from. At least in the South, siding is an actual material made from wood or more commonly plastic, and not just "the side of something", as you seem to have it.
2) What distinction are you making between flat and plum in the comment above? (PS-Congratulations on bringing plum back into the mix! Good one!)
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Re: a comment on Creation by Quarton |
18-Sep-05/1:27 AM |
Your comment about other universes spread over space and time makes me think this poem could stand a metaphor of jam spread over an old man's creased buttocks. Judging from the rest of the comments on this poem, everyone agrees.
PS-I was considering only organic evolution, or the evolution of species by competition, natural selection, and so on. Apparently there's a whole other evolution, inorganic evolution, dealing with the creation of the physical universe, that I had no idea about. My unprepared response is going to be that considering human or organic evolution as part of the same process of inorganic evolution that resulted in the creation of galaxies and such from unorganized matter is kind of silly. If this ends with me having to go through the bother of a prepared response, I'm going to shoot myself.
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Re: a comment on My addict by Heather Dee |
18-Sep-05/1:11 AM |
I grew up in Charlotte but went to a private school full of northern expatriates almost the whole time. I didn't learn about the word y'all until 10th grade, and then I thought it was cute. I actually STILL think the Civil War is over.
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Re: a comment on Seekers by Dovina |
16-Sep-05/5:39 AM |
What the hell? Are you pulling my leg?
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Re: a comment on Rejuvenation by Dovina |
16-Sep-05/4:30 AM |
Like I said, to attract insects and birds for pollination. In that sense, they're as much a part of seed-production as beards or buttocks, especially the baboon sort. Yes, eyes were a bad example, but you wouldn't say beards have a lot of other functions, would you?
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Re: oh how far are we from wilderness by tianyi |
16-Sep-05/2:35 AM |
Great. And you've been reading Cannery Row, too. Extra points.
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