Re: Blackout, Amman, November, 2005 by zodiac	Dental Panic 84.27.6.94	24-Nov-05/6:13 PM
great poem.
Re: The mountain has come to Mohammed by ALChemy	Dental Panic 84.27.6.94	24-Nov-05/6:08 PM
here'a link to the Laibach version: http://media.putfile.com/Laibach57 hope it works
Re: The mountain has come to Mohammed by ALChemy	wilco 24.92.74.122	24-Nov-05/5:50 PM
Sympathy for the Devil reference...nice..
Re: a comment on Moving Forward In Reverse (For Ann) by wilco	wilco 24.92.74.122	24-Nov-05/1:41 PM
thanks.
Re: a comment on Moving Forward In Reverse (For Ann) by wilco	wilco 24.92.74.122	24-Nov-05/1:40 PM
I wholeheartedly agree. This isn't even the best thing that I'VE written...much less the best thing on the site...of course that can be said for much of what's in the top 20. I think there needs to be a better system for determining the top peoms...oh well...what'r you gonna do..I don't run this outfit.
Re: Moving Forward In Reverse (For Ann) by wilco	Dark Angle 68.101.115.45	24-Nov-05/1:10 PM
this shouldnt be # 1, not saying it should be last though. maybe # 10293.
Re: O dear. by celticskatermatt1	Dovina 69.175.32.104	24-Nov-05/11:52 AM
It's the way of emotion, and emotion gets it's way. After "Due Consideration" (see my poem by that title) we decide by the seat of our pants or by what feels right. You've said it well.
Re: a comment on Us Sinners by BrandonW	Dovina 69.175.32.104	24-Nov-05/11:49 AM
I'll let it go then. But I think you've made some serious blunders.
Re: a comment on Due Consideration by Dovina	Dovina 209.247.222.98	24-Nov-05/7:06 AM
Then all those outbursts of enflamatory exuberance were based solely in reason and only appeared that way to an unknowing observer. Few decisions are based on reason - Dovina
Re: A Modern Woman by Dovina	ALChemy 24.74.101.159	24-Nov-05/6:01 AM
How is that modern. My grandmother could do all those things and probably did and her lifestyle was never more modern than what you might see on The Waltons. Unfortunately you can't meet her because she died in the late 80s. Maybe change modern to free and you might have more of a statement. The first stanza has nice rhythm.
Re: a comment on Letter from Palermo by Caducus	Caducus 172.203.50.222	24-Nov-05/5:10 AM
It all makes sense what you say. Its hard to see what needs to change and others see it but seldom say it in a way that is clear. I need to change without changing the good points. Let me know with any future postings if you can. I think I have the ideas and some are too big for my limited ability - I am not saying their i am crap but maybe my ideas are too vast for my talents. Thats the gut reaction from your comment.
Re: O dear. by celticskatermatt1	cyan9 217.40.63.105	24-Nov-05/1:54 AM
O Dear, not another one. When will these people realise.... I felt compelled to give this a low vote, firstly on the basis that it lulled me towards the position of wanting to vomit, but not enougth so as to stick two fingers down my throat. Secondly it uses the word love a hell of a lot, without saying anything about your feelings or this other person, and so feels somewhat less than loving and more like a manic fad; whether that is the intention or not.
Re: A Modern Woman by Dovina	cyan9 217.40.63.105	24-Nov-05/1:48 AM
Good Luck, theyre difficult to find, Ive been looking out for quite some time.
Re: A Modern Woman by Dovina	zodiac 81.10.119.26	24-Nov-05/12:53 AM
She doesn't hang out at the same places you do.
Re: a comment on One Second by TLRufener	zodiac 81.10.119.26	24-Nov-05/12:47 AM
That has nothing to do with it. I will comment on your poems if you promise not to delete any more comments that aren't your own.
Re: a comment on Us Sinners by BrandonW	zodiac 81.10.119.26	24-Nov-05/12:44 AM
The prime example of trumping on poemranker is Mr Professor Doug Soderstrom, MA. He has never claimed to win anything, only trumped and hoped that in the resulting confusion we'd forget there was ever a discussion going on. I'm under no illusions about your desire to win. I hope that's settled. 1. Because if I do that, you say that most of what you've written/commented on poemranker doesn't reflect your real views or that it's too ambiguous to draw any real conclusion from. I'm not trying to dis; those are both excellent responses, but I'm trying to get somewhere. If you mean 'rather than just commenting on what I say, which is that I don't assume Christian God', well, because I think your a prime blunderer about those sort of things, and that people in general are not to be trusted to know their own minds. 2. Because the whole point of this argument is 'Oh, oh, shame on zodiac! He assumes God!' That is, shame on you Dovina for assuming not only God but Christian God, and then thinking it's some kind of dis to accuse others of that. Now you'll pretend the aboveposted comments and all of your other comments on this site are too vague for me to be drawing such conclusions. If that's the case, why the hell do you comment here? And do you ever suspect that you don't actually exist? Despite your constant assertions to the contrary, you have always classified me and classify me at least as much as I classify you. Besides, I'm not the one who thinks classifying is some evil injustice; you're that one. At least half of the time. Disbelieve me if you like; these are the most obvious ways you've classified me on this page alone: - God-assumer, - Classifier, - Likes to trump, - Most cares about trumping, - Will inevitably trump, - Strongly-held believer. So let it go.
Re: a comment on Due Consideration by Dovina	zodiac 81.10.119.26	24-Nov-05/12:21 AM
I speak Arabic. All words stick in my throat. That's how we talk. But no, I never ever feel like the voice of reason is acting at odds with my instinct or preexisting beliefs, so I need to ignore or abandon one of them to make things work. I think that would be a terrible way to live. I'm sure unreasoning people think mine is a terrible way to live, but then I seem a lot less bent out of shape than a lot of them.
Re: a comment on Due Consideration by Dovina	zodiac 81.10.119.26	23-Nov-05/11:35 PM
On slate.com. Just enter any of the of above in quotes on yahoo or google.
Re: a comment on Letter from Palermo by Caducus	zodiac 81.10.119.26	23-Nov-05/11:31 PM
No. I'm a special education teacher in the middle of the Jordanian desert. But I did study poetry for about 7 years of college. 1) What you're lacking most is consistency to your metaphors. You often pick one aspect of an image that relates to the thing you're describing, but ignore the other aspects of it that don't relate at all. For instance, in a recent poem you called child prostitutes "painted masterpieces" when the only thing about masterpieces that resembles child prostitutes is something like "painted up to please the viewer"; all other aspects of masterpieces, like "product of hard work and creative genius, appealing on dozens of sublime and intellectual levels, painted by respectable people" totally work against what you're trying to get across about prostitutes. A corollary of this, though not as necessary, is consistency between metaphors. For example, in this poem you have things compared to rivers and zombies like, two lines apart. It's not such a crime, but ideally there'd be some kind of logic or connection between them. That's all I can do right now. I'll get back on the rest.
Re: a comment on Math Poem 4 by Dovina	Dovina 209.247.222.96	23-Nov-05/11:22 AM
“Flapping around Alpha Beta” happens sometimes during the test of a mechanical pterodactyl. I don’t undertake only those tasks at which I believe I will shine. Such fear-based reticence would limit my fun. You do understand that we play a child’s game aimed at education. I risk encountering ridicule, and even welcome it sometimes, for the possibility of a shining insight. It’s hard to be sworn at or likened to all manner of disgusting things. But the way I see it, as long as sun glimmers from a pool of urine, I’ll endure the stench. Or as a lost friend once said, “Poemranker is a great resource. It is like a huge thrift shop or, even better, a gigantic landfill. If you don't mind getting dirty, there are many precious things to be found under some especially slimy, fecally covered toilet seat or unwashed, skidmarked underwear.” I’m getting all mushy and teary-eyed now. I hope at least one person reading this ramble has experienced courage not his or her own – realizes that this is an essay born in love. I plan to show it to him this evening and tell him that to feel loved is to feel worth more than the sum of my efforts, and that his brief words counteract an ocean of guff. Thanks for listening.