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Due Consideration

by Dovina

Member since 2004 · Posted 20 Nov 2005 · 38 comments

An urgent whisper rises strained I hold it back hold breath Could it sound or only crack trying To restrain that unborn word might forfeit all To give voice, gain too much and what if that whisper isn’t ‘No’? After due consideration I ignore reason Better to take whatever pain release breath and thereby know

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[n/a] ALChemy 21-Nov-05/6:37 AM Reply
Burp -by ALChemy

Belching out my songs of love and philosophy
I hold my breath to kill the beast I feed upon
It's meat is rough but not enough to discourage me
And now I've said it all
and now I've done it all
and now I've had it all
I ate it up all gone

One wonders how many millions read the biting comments listed under many of the poems posted here and think "Nope, no frickin way I putting my stuff up there to get lambasted like that." Maybe they should read this poem first for confidence.
[9] LilMsLadyPoet › ALChemy 21-Nov-05/3:00 PM Reply
carnivorous bunch, writers; especially poets. see my 'Let me". But at least we admit we are a brutal bunch..actually revel in it....no shame.
[n/a] ALChemy › LilMsLadyPoet 22-Nov-05/2:26 PM Reply
Yeah. Look what they did to poor sweet little innocent Bethy.
[n/a] Dovina › ALChemy 22-Nov-05/1:40 PM Reply
Do I detect a note of sarcasm? If so, good. Subtle sarcasm is good for the soul. As for those afraid to post their stuff, consider this:

I don’t undertake only those tasks at which I believe I will shine. Such fear-based reticence would limit my play and exposure to others’ play in a child’s game aimed at education. I risk encountering ridicule, and even welcome it sometimes, for the possibility of a shining insight. It’s hard to be sworn at or likened to all manner of disgusting things, but as long as sun glimmers from that pool of urine, I’ll endure the stench. Or as a lost friend once said, “Poemranker is a great resource. It is like a huge thrift shop or, even better, a gigantic landfill. If you don't mind getting dirty, there are many precious things to be found under some especially slimy, fecally covered toilet seat or unwashed, skidmarked underwear.” I’m getting all mushy and teary-eyed now.
[n/a] ALChemy › Dovina 22-Nov-05/1:56 PM Reply
No I really think this does for timid poets what the Heimlich maneuver did for choke victims.
[8] zodiac 21-Nov-05/9:51 AM Reply
Well, at least ignoring reason ignores any ways of determining whether you're better off unreasonable except the unreasonable ones.
[n/a] Dovina › zodiac 22-Nov-05/7:06 AM Reply
Yes, at least that. Apparently, you've never had a word stick in your throat.
[8] zodiac › Dovina 24-Nov-05/12:21 AM Reply
I speak Arabic. All words stick in my throat. That's how we talk.

But no, I never ever feel like the voice of reason is acting at odds with my instinct or preexisting beliefs, so I need to ignore or abandon one of them to make things work. I think that would be a terrible way to live. I'm sure unreasoning people think mine is a terrible way to live, but then I seem a lot less bent out of shape than a lot of them.
[n/a] Dovina › zodiac 24-Nov-05/7:06 AM Reply
Then all those outbursts of enflamatory exuberance were based solely in reason and only appeared that way to an unknowing observer.

Few decisions are based on reason - Dovina
[8] zodiac › Dovina 25-Nov-05/1:01 AM Reply
All my decisions are based on reason. My unreasonable decisions are based on an admittedly imperfect application of reason. Guess that's the end of this conversation.
[9] LilMsLadyPoet › Dovina 11-Dec-05/9:32 AM Reply
I suspect more of a problem that involves spewing...
[8] zodiac 22-Nov-05/12:53 AM Reply
PS-Your gift:

Q: If we could surgically remove a patient's negative emotions, and it worked better than meditation, should we do it?

DALAI LAMA: Yes.

Q: What if the patient didn't want us to surgically remove his negative emotions?

DALAI LAMA: Use force, with good intentions.

-from the Annual Conference of the Society for Neuroscience
November 12, 2005
[n/a] Dovina › zodiac 22-Nov-05/7:08 AM Reply
Frontal lobotomy works well.
[9] cyan9 › zodiac 22-Nov-05/8:36 AM Reply
Where can you get this information / a transcript?
[8] zodiac › cyan9 23-Nov-05/11:35 PM Reply
On slate.com. Just enter any of the of above in quotes on yahoo or google.
[9] cyan9 22-Nov-05/8:09 AM Reply
Absolutely full of actions to analyse and think about. Draws readers like me to think much deeper into your personality than most pieces that aim to state who you are. I think I might use this style later in order to try and shape a persons experience by the actions and pathways that you give them to analyse, rather than to present them with the analysis in a statement (may lead to a much richer form).
Back to the poem though, I found a slightly unpleasant break in the flow at the stanza with the unborn word to be an absolute high point of the piece. If you had continued with the flow all the way, I may have thought that this was a delightful little piece and should score it an 8 for having a nice rhyme; however the break in the flow caused me to pause to think, and thus dive into the analysis and the ideas that this provokes. My only problem is that I dont quite understand the 2 lines about statring "To give".
[n/a] Dovina › cyan9 22-Nov-05/1:41 PM Reply
A break in rhythm happens in a conversation or in a poem when I come to a place of such emotion or uncontrol that something in me wants to come out, but I grasp it in my throat. There I hold it for critical moment, trying to decide whether “to give” it sound would say the thing that wants to come out or whether reason will prevail and “give” the sound the mask I wish it to wear.

Thanks for your comment.
[8] elderking 22-Nov-05/4:11 PM Reply
excellent; the last stanza (is that the correct word?)
is simple and clear (a 'lesson' I could stand to learn!)
elderking
[8] zodiac 25-Nov-05/1:02 AM Reply
Here's a perfect example:

REASON: Dovina might be slightly racist.
DOVINA'S BELIEFS: Nooooooooooo!
[n/a] ALChemy › zodiac 25-Nov-05/4:36 AM Reply
She's gonna be a character in one of your novels. I can just feel it.
[n/a] Dovina › ALChemy 25-Nov-05/11:30 AM Reply
It's one of those coming-of-age stories where the protagonist finally realizes his nemisis woman has won his heart.
[n/a] ALChemy › Dovina 25-Nov-05/1:00 PM Reply
I'm getting all verklempt just thinking about it.
[8] zodiac › Dovina 27-Nov-05/5:41 AM Reply
I'd like to see Dovina's Reason cast as sexy protagonist woman and Dovina's Emotion cast as the prude seductee. They end up in a flat in Brooklyn with 2.5 kids and a Hyundai. Nights when Reason's out of town, Emotion still likes to dress in women's clothes and pretend to be "Douvinae", sexy damsel of wildly romantic melodrama.
[n/a] Dovina › zodiac 2-Dec-05/12:05 PM Reply
You say that Dovina's Emotion is masculine? How could you?
[8] zodiac › Dovina 2-Dec-05/1:29 PM Reply
I thought you'd like that. You'll be relieved to know that before posting the aboveposted comment, I did the math, and it checks out.
[n/a] Dovina › zodiac 2-Dec-05/1:40 PM Reply
1 + 1 = 0? That kind of math?
[8] zodiac › Dovina 2-Dec-05/1:42 PM Reply
Are you starting with the assumption that EMOTION = MALE is zero-value or one?
[n/a] Dovina › zodiac 2-Dec-05/1:43 PM Reply
No assumption implied. Try hard. It's not that difficult.
[8] zodiac › Dovina 3-Dec-05/5:57 AM Reply
All math starts with assumptions. As far as what you're assuming - excuse me, taking as granted, I can only imagine it has something to do with assigning gender to reason, emotion, you being relieved, and/or math. In which case - or any case, for that matter - whatever.
[9] LilMsLadyPoet 11-Dec-05/9:56 AM Reply
Oh, didn't get my vote in...sorry!...here I was commenting without voting...oops...thought I had. I have to say all the discussion in this post has been most entertaining...and enlightening. As to my comment of cannibalism: it is not meant as a bad thing; actually taking bits and pieces, ideas, and thoughts that get started, from others, is what fuels the creative fire, so to speak. In this way we feed on others, everyone, and everything. Any writer who states he is not a parasite is a lair. We digest what we read, hear, feel, see, experience, see others experience...and then we write...from where? That depository called the brain. Can we claim everything in there as solely our own?...of course not! How many times I have delved and devoured with hunger what I found within another...with the thought a satisfaction above most others...knowing it had inspired something that I would later revel in...relishing the process of defining or painting within words! I love the challenge of creating something as rich as the situation inspired. LilMsLadyPoet...who eats with sensual relishment...then, with a flourish, licks her fingers clean afterwards!
[n/a] Dovina › LilMsLadyPoet 11-Dec-05/12:16 PM Reply
Sad, knowing all we are is regurgitations, specks of excriment. The difference between us lies in admission or insistance, like Dark Angel, that we are in some way excellent.
[8] zodiac › Dovina 11-Dec-05/2:16 PM Reply
Yes, that's a difference. Another difference is what you think the words "admission" and "insistence" mean.
[n/a] Dovina › zodiac 11-Dec-05/2:21 PM Reply
To admit that conditions exist.
To insist that conditions exist
It's a difference between acceptance and adamance.
[8] zodiac › Dovina 11-Dec-05/2:26 PM Reply
Yes, it's perfectly obvious that agreeing with you is "admitting" existant conditions, while disagreeing with you is "insisting" on a dangerously-brown guff-track.
[n/a] Dovina › zodiac 11-Dec-05/2:28 PM Reply
No, disagreeing with me could be other things less disgusting.
[9] LilMsLadyPoet › Dovina 13-Dec-05/9:25 AM Reply
If it exists, then it IS..there fore it IS whether you admit it or not. And wether you instist that it IS or not. A is A.(Because you acknowledge A to begin with.)
[9] LilMsLadyPoet › LilMsLadyPoet 13-Dec-05/9:30 AM Reply
Crap...ignore the typos...that DO exist...I admit that much, since they are there, and they do exist. No amount of not admiting will make them not exist.
[9] LilMsLadyPoet 11-Dec-05/10:04 AM Reply
An urgent whisper...remind me of one of mine> see new post...lol.