Re: a comment on Tora Bora 2002 by kawakurdi	12-Sep-02/4:47 PM
This poem!
Re: a comment on Anfal: Our 9/11 happened many times over by kawakurdi	12-Sep-02/4:34 PM
Oh yes, GW is so sweet and me and the other US readers, well, we are the ugly americans. For the last time I was simply talking about your poem! You have gone off the deep end with this. And you know, final thought, as you throw around the lovely term martyr.If it was not for religion we would not be in half the mess were are. I am sorry your writing in this poem doesn't interest me. Call me heartless, call me whatever, but the fact is it is rather weak and in need of another draft. Geez. Thanks GW for taking it out of the realm of the poem. That is what she wanted! I wasn't biting.
Re: a comment on Anfal: Our 9/11 happened many times over by kawakurdi	12-Sep-02/10:31 AM
There you go. You are telling me in the comments what I want to see and feel in the poem. You do not have to explain the situation to me. I am well aware of what anfal means and what was done and is being done to the kurds but both Iraq and Turkey. Maybe not on a personal level but on an intellectual level. I could care a less what you title your poem. But I do care about the content. Like I said yesterday it was when you started rattling of the names of the villages that it meant something to me. Until then I felt the poem drifted. If you want to discuss international relations I would be more than happy to but not in this forum. This is about poetry, and again if you can get what you are commenting about into the poem effectively, you fail to convince me of everything you are saying artistically.
Re: Gone Away by Christof	12-Sep-02/8:55 AM
Just think if you outlive her the choices you will have. The old folks homes have 4/1 ration of women to men!!!! Excellent last stanza. And no flipping birds.
Re: AIDS Bonanza! by -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I.	12-Sep-02/8:45 AM
You cannot actually have a brain you are a small minded individual with no thought to people who actually are ill. Sick. YUCK! BLECH! GAG!:( This is sick and sad. You are a narrow minded prick. You say we should be praying for these sick people, you should pray for them instead of preying on them, making there illness a joke, you are seriously going to offend someone with the disease, or someone with a family member that has it. Make a joke that is funny not sick. What the hell is your problem. You are the first one to dogg someone elsa's poem, and they're actually wrighting about somthing for a cause or that means somthing to them, you are writing just to frustrate and offend people with. I dont know about everyone elsa, I can't speak for them but i want you off this website.
Re: a comment on father Worked Nights by poetandknowit	12-Sep-02/8:28 AM
Do you ever write anything that makes a half a bit of sense?
Re: a comment on father Worked Nights by poetandknowit	12-Sep-02/8:27 AM
Yes, I choose to write what I know and it does not have much to do with birds. And I think I do it effectively. The stuff is actually quite simple and I am not trying to thrust an artistic experience on anyone. I do not have any notions of the artistic experience, considering I am a journalist. I never make banal statements like "life sucks" or write depressing pimple poems about mundane overburdened subjects. And if you continue to write about birds, I will continue to make note of it. Love P&K.
Re: a comment on Anfal: Our 9/11 happened many times over by kawakurdi	12-Sep-02/8:23 AM
Damn you are nice. Thanks for extending my outburst into the cultural side. I stayed away!
Re: a comment on father Worked Nights by poetandknowit	12-Sep-02/5:46 AM
Actually, this poem is a bit of a joke. Anyway, merry old England does not have an urban working class and domestic violence. The ratio of wife beater does not go up after a big soccer match loss.
Re: a comment on Anfal: Our 9/11 happened many times over by kawakurdi	11-Sep-02/10:40 PM
I haven't been so kind to the 9/11 tributes today. And I really pissed off Amaliea (she didn't like my Starbucks tribute haiku), among others.
Re: a comment on Anfal: Our 9/11 happened many times over by kawakurdi	11-Sep-02/10:33 PM
The test was due to royalflesh deleting my comments. I thought I was banned!!
Re: a comment on Anfal: Our 9/11 happened many times over by kawakurdi	11-Sep-02/10:28 PM
I know this may sound hard to believe, but I removed some harsh words that upon reflection and the situation the poem deals with, I felt were inappropriate.
Re: a comment on Anfal: Our 9/11 happened many times over by kawakurdi	11-Sep-02/10:14 PM
Of course, I am a product of my culture, but I am looking at a fucking poem. The context of the poem, the language, the images, etc. I am bringing nothing to the table when I read this for the first time and am reading your work for the first time. Now that I know your work, I will bring something to the table. I am not sure why you want to make this more than it is. I am attacking the poem not you or your culture. I could care a less about that. So why attack mine, when you have no idea what it is or where I am. It is the poet's job to put me in the poem, to make me understand. There are a good many things I do not do or understand, but when a good poet or writer communicates effectively, I am there (i.e war, holocaust, sitting in a little hut eating goat stew when some crazy son of a bitch decides he wants to gas his own people). I am sorry if you want to make it something else, whether cultural or religious, but I am not going there. I realize I am not Kurdish or have not experienced what happened to the Kurdish people but a good poem will make me feel like I have. Read my work. It may not take on subjects like Anfal, but I will take you down Colfax Ave in Denver on a cold night hungry and in need of a smoke and you will feel the cold, the pangs in your stomach and the ache of needing. This poem does not do that, at least in my opinion.
Re: a comment on Mermaid at Dawn by <~>	11-Sep-02/10:03 PM
Good-night Frass. Don't be mad. Your pal, PAKI
Re: Mermaid at Dawn by <~>	11-Sep-02/9:53 PM
The definitely gets the Cupping GW award for the night. She is off with Clement, so I guess I am stuck with you. I actually have a friend going through a similar thing as you....
Re: Mermaid at Dawn by <~>	11-Sep-02/9:49 PM
3am is the loneliest hour to shower.
Re: A missing puzzle piece. by trev086	11-Sep-02/9:48 PM
Oh brother must we continue to read these poor poems. But it gets Frass' Sad Sap approval award!!
Re: Unwanted Return by PawnedTidal	11-Sep-02/9:38 PM
I swear I read this the first time when it was called Waking Up. Why don't you just make the one poem? Or maybe that wasn't what it was called, but it was another angry rant. Doesn't feeling hurt suck? Man, dude I feel it. Freakin women. Don't call her though!! Don't!!
Re: a comment on while you are away on the islands by poetandknowit	11-Sep-02/9:29 PM
Ahhh! Was that you who gave my comment the boot? And here I thought it had some secret to do with Nentwhistle. Go into your poem and hit reply and then type in what your need to say then poof - like that the whole world bears witness. But in order to see it, you must hit see all replies in the comments.
Re: a comment on while you are away on the islands by poetandknowit	11-Sep-02/5:51 PM
Thank you for the vote. Unfortunately in your wildest dreams, you would never be able to write at this level. But an angry 2 I'll take. If your poem comes up in the random file, I will comment on it. I am not sure what your found so insulting. It is not as if I said it was rubbish. You are the Starbucks girl, correct?