| Re: drowning in the bookstore by yarlgrenn |
13-Aug-02/6:01 AM |
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This would be good if it was slightly less cliched. horus8, with every public ejaculation you have, you further reveal the limitations of your appreciation.
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| Re: Day of Reckoning by Lenore |
13-Aug-02/12:08 PM |
Your idea of what 'd.a.' likes is so wildly inaccurate that even Poetie probably has a better idea. The fact is I have hardly said anything about what I like. Does this mean I don't like anything? Of course not. I could give a long list of what I like, but I think that gushing about one's interests and/or 'passions' is one of the most odious things a human being can do. Let's just say that, if what you just said is an accurate representation of your opinion, then what you think I like is almost nothing like what I like. I do not go overboard on praise. Perhaps I go overboard on criticism. You go overboard on praise. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me that constantly feigning orgasm over poemes doesn't prove anything about your ability to appreciate poetry. Especially in your case, since 90% of the time you're fucked out of your brain and find everything either awful or divine. The trick is to get over your own sense of deliberately-self-induced 'child-like wonder'. I may write a book on all the bullshit I have in my brain just to get it out of the way. The central theme will be something to do with people's incessant clinging on to 'seeing the world like a child' and constantly telling themselves things are wonderful and special and magical. That is why people clap when a cripple wins a race. They want to live in a world in which things end up like in children's books. It makes them feel safe and happy. Part of this illusion is approving of everything that initially seems good, or even better than average.
This is a child's misapprehension. To write poetry about musty book shops is trite. It may evoke nostalgic feelings of childhood wonder, but then what doesn't? It doesn't make the poem any good. It is trite to write poetry about: sunny days, lost love, the futility of existence, etc, etc. Anything that evokes a sense of nostalgia for childhood is probably a bad poem, simply because the author concentrated on creating a vague longing rather than any actual message. This is good if done properly; however, even though it is usually not done properly, people still clamour about how beautiful it is. Your teachers have probably told you to make it 'real' when you write. How can you make poetry real? By saying the thing you want to say in the most genuine way you can; you should try to be as accurate as possible. Part of being accurate is shedding your set of cosy habits, among which are: the habit of believing your own hype, the habit of clinging on to good first impressions, the habit of believing that rush-of-pleasure-checmical-in-brain = beautiful and right and good and special and wonderful and childlike and a daisy being picked by a three year old in a sun hat who gives it to her mother and they drive to a pool party and laugh and then someone throws a brick at the child's head. I doubt anyone's still reading, but the real point I want to make is this: don't let the desire for good poetry let you believe that bad poetry is good.
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| Re: Walls by razorgrin |
13-Aug-02/12:25 PM |
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Come on guys! Don't fight! Spend your time basking in the glory of the lord Jesu instead!
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| Re: NIGHTMILK SUNBLOOD by horus8 |
13-Aug-02/12:34 PM |
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Would someone who came all over this poeme tell me what they thought was good about it? I thought the "flow" of the words was "good", but if there is a non-literal message to be found then I haven't found it. Unless it's "what has the world come to; it used to be magical and special but now it's not."
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| regarding some deleted poem... |
13-Aug-02/8:21 PM |
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I am bursting with the need to write a poeme called "ANTICIPATING A FART". Here it is (haiku): A small pain at first/It grows until it reaches/unstoppable size.
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| Re: NIGHTMILK SUNBLOOD by horus8 |
13-Aug-02/8:25 PM |
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Anyone can make up a story and tell themselves it has meaning.
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| Re: Nude Limbo by forestchild7 |
13-Aug-02/8:27 PM |
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The first two lines of this are genius. Actually the whole thing could be genius if only you had made the pleasure of nudity more sinister and unthinkable.
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| regarding some deleted poem... |
13-Aug-02/8:38 PM |
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| Re: silence of the sky by david |
13-Aug-02/10:12 PM |
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'We' are fans of David Hume, I think.
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| Re: I LOVE YOUR HATE AND RIDICULE by http://janglingjack |
14-Aug-02/4:10 AM |
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Can you not see that -=Dark_Angel=-'s comment on your other poeme was the apex of irony?
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| Re: of the bad hard drive by david |
14-Aug-02/4:12 AM |
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What do you mean, "smacks of Tron?" It's practically an explicit reference to 2001. Isn't it?
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| regarding some deleted poem... |
14-Aug-02/4:13 AM |
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No you're not. Lying won't get you anywhere in life, young man.
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| regarding some deleted poem... |
14-Aug-02/5:21 AM |
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You stupid, stupid cunt. God, how I wish you would wake up with a red-hot iron on your face. I'm going to tell you something that, while it is relatively obvious, you seem not to be aware of. THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE LIKED YOUR POEM DOES NOT MEAN IT IS GOOD. A lot of people like Britney Spears. As far as I know, she is the #1 pop act in the US right now, or at least very close to #1. Does that make her good? No. Of course it fucking doesn't. So why does the opinion of a few people make your poem good? No, wait, I understand. The people who dislike your poems are "stupid" because they "don't get it", and "other people liked it", so they can go "fuck themselves". Do you realise how pathetic that sounds? When someone uses something's popularity as the basis for their argument for its goodness, you know they're desperate. If 90% of the people on this site said your poems were awful, you would insist "No, I'm right, you're wrong, you don't understand, my poems are good, you can go fuck yourself". You are a talentless dickwad. You have no sense of what poetry is, and you never will. It's not that I don't like your style. It's not that I don't like your subject matter, or your choice of words, or your inability to spell/capitalise/punctuate properly. It's that you are completely devoid of any saving graces at all, and your poems suck ass. Now, I fully expect you to counter with "what the fuck do you think your talking about 15 of your poems are in the worst section go fuck youreself", so let me remind you that 90% of the time, 90% of people are full of shit. More relevantly, the poems of mine that are in the worst section are not, I repeat, ARE NOT, supposed to garner praise and cryptic declarations of poetic orgasm. They are supposed to do a particular thing, and the fact that they are in the worst section is a clue that they have succeeded (No, it's not "offend people", just in case your little brain was jumping up and down in excitement at having worked something out). Now look here, cumbreath. You have as much a "right" to continue posting poetry as anyone else. But in exchange for that right, you must concede them the right to criticise it. And to respond to ANY criticism with "No, that criticism is wrong, because other people have praised it" is to miss the point of what criticism is. It is an opinion. Opinions may be more or less rational, but, especially in the case of poetry, you can't say that people's opinions are "wrong". Except yours. Your opinions are wrong.
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| Re: The Sea by Tarquin De La Bog |
14-Aug-02/5:30 AM |
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Did you hear that, guys?! yoda's apprentice isn't going to vote for this poem! That's how bad it is!! Golly gosh!
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| Re: Drowning by kat_boost |
14-Aug-02/5:35 AM |
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This is bollocks of the worst possible kind. STOP. WRITING. TEENAGE. ANGST. POETRY. THAT. IS. EXACTLY THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER TEENAGE ANGST POETRY EVER WRITTEN. IT DOES NOT INTEREST ANYONE. YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME AND ALSO THE TIME OF ANYONE WHO READS YOUR POEM. I'M SURE YOUR EMOTIONS ARE HEARTFELT AND REAL AND TRUE. HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT MAKE THEM WORTHY OF POETRY. YOU ARE NOT UNIQUE. YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. THE SOONER YOU CEASE LABOURING UNDER THAT MISCONCEPTION THE SOONER YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PRODUCE STOMACHABLE POETRY.
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| regarding some deleted poem... |
14-Aug-02/11:09 AM |
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What do you mean, "I'm just saying be more open minded and...mature?" That is the most ridiculous thing you've ever said. As for claiming to not care what anyone thinks about your poems, that's total bullshit, and you know it. Why do you post on poemranker? In order to get your poems ranked. You express pleasure when someone praises your poems. Obviously you do care. It's just that you pretend not to when they're criticised, because you refuse to admit that they're total shite. The first step to solving a problem is admitting you have it. Your problem is that you suck at poetry. Admit it, and then you can start changing. More crap...You keep attacking my poetry. For one thing, my poetry is neither as clumsy nor as utterly ill-conceived as yours. It may be unappealing, unserious and generally annoying, but it is not even in the same league of utter horror that your poems live in. More...I am not an 'internet geek'. The only thing I "do" on the internet is post on this site and play the occasional game of Warcraft III. Apart from that I just "browse" and read my email. I do like the outside, just not to the point of obsession. I don't really know why I'm telling you this, but I suppose the easiest remedy for incompetence is education.
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| Re: The Word by Tascobar |
15-Aug-02/4:29 AM |
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"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God". I'll thank you to think about THAT the next time you write about The Word! Good day to you, Sir!
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| Re: Afraid Of You (To Amber) by Lil_Chick_512 |
15-Aug-02/4:57 AM |
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| regarding some deleted poem... |
15-Aug-02/1:17 PM |
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Why do sonnets have to be written in faux-olde language? Does anyone write Haiku in Engrish?
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| regarding some deleted poem... |
15-Aug-02/1:27 PM |
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I change before I see your comment! Many aporogy!
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