Re: Better Off Dead by wilco	sliver 172.191.201.220	7-Dec-05/7:06 PM
But why pick that particular ending? Especially touching for me because it reaches into some not so distant memories of mine and wrings them out a bit. I likey.
Re: a comment on Count All the Stars by TLRufener	ALChemy 24.74.101.159	7-Dec-05/5:20 PM
One's alot quicker though.
Re: a comment on Jesus, you I see by amanda_dcosta	ALChemy 24.74.101.159	7-Dec-05/5:19 PM
Don't get me wrong there's some good lyrics out there but the expectations of a lyric are set lower in many peoples minds. If it sounds like a good song you'll tend to get a higher vote because people are used to lyrics not translating to print well.
Re: a comment on Better Off Dead by wilco	Dovina 69.175.32.104	7-Dec-05/4:56 PM
E played in C?
Re: a comment on Count All the Stars by TLRufener	Dovina 69.175.32.104	7-Dec-05/4:54 PM
Yep. Either way's about as easy.
Re: a comment on Count All the Stars by TLRufener	ALChemy 24.74.101.159	7-Dec-05/4:20 PM
Most likely but did you know that you don't have to go into advance search to do that. Just put it in quotation marks (""). It works on most any search engine.
Re: Better Off Dead by wilco	Dovina 69.175.32.104	7-Dec-05/3:57 PM
It has a lot of good images and lines, but the comfort of logic is mostly lacking, at least for me. Don't get me wrong, the thing doesn't have to add up to be good, it just does more for me if I find answers to questions like, How is she saved from how life ends up when you’re all alone?
Re: Better Off Dead by wilco	wilco 24.92.74.122	7-Dec-05/3:50 PM
Capo 4
Re: a comment on Jesus, you I see by amanda_dcosta	wilco 24.92.74.122	7-Dec-05/3:44 PM
Exactly what are you saying, sir?
Re: a comment on Count All the Stars by TLRufener	Dovina 69.175.32.104	7-Dec-05/2:42 PM
I'll have to give him credit for this unusual display of documentation for his usually exterporaneous arguements. I believe he actually copied each of these lines from the poem and placed it in Google's Advanced Search, under "Exact Phrase" and hit "Search." The total number of sites containing that line becomes his basis for cliche rating.
Re: a comment on Shoebox Thoughts by BrandonW	cyan9 84.12.172.126	7-Dec-05/11:34 AM
My problem with them is that I like to experience a poem for a while without embarking on an epic length tale of woe and mellodrama, haikus deny me that, in that they are so short they summarise the poem and leave out the detail and the beauty. I am generalising a lot here to get my opinion across, but this is the way I see it.
Re: IT All Starts With My Fears by tisa7	tisa7 168.254.226.55	7-Dec-05/9:25 AM
I dont know i was upset when i thought of this
Re: a comment on Count All the Stars by TLRufener	cyan9 217.40.63.105	7-Dec-05/6:58 AM
Ere zodiac, does this cliche counter actually exist, or would it not make a good website? i find it hard to believe that anybody could be bothered to type all of this out, but on the otherhand I cant find it on google.
Re: Count All the Stars by TLRufener	cyan9 217.40.63.105	7-Dec-05/6:47 AM
I have to agree with zodiac here. You've exhibited line after line of phrases that are used commonly to beg for sympathy or to dwell in pity, and so I think that justifies zodiacs complaint.
Re: Count All the Stars by TLRufener	zodiac 212.38.134.51	7-Dec-05/6:19 AM
In the interest of fairness, here's Caducus' most recent post: "I was your Abilene dream" = 0 + "I was your dream" = 357 "Your rainy Chelsea thoughts" = 0 + "Your rainy thoughts" = 1 "The moisture on your fingers" = 49 "midnight moon Prince" = 53 "I was your IPOD lyrics" = 0 + "I was your lyrics" = 29 "You cantered through suits" = 0 "Breathless even then" = 21 "Before we ever touched" = 390 "You were my serpent" = 1 "My scent of apples" = 0 "Eve slept against my rib cage" = 0 "Knowing the end was near" = 492 "We met in Coventry" = 7 "Both becoming flesh" = 1 "Trains spat diesel" = 0 "Was it a ghost" = 1,160 "Taxi to a Hotel bar" = 4 "Lips betrayed minds" = 0 "Nerves brined my palms" = 0 "Whenever you breathed" = 39 "We left for Texas engaged" = 0 + "We left for Texas" = 195 "Broth of your mothers mouth" = 0 "Stirred the cauldron of my tongue" = 0 "Promises were made" = 107,000 "Ring became a rock" = 0 "Rock became sand" = 10 "Sand became time" = 0 "Time impaled her heart" = 0 "Left me deaf and blind" = 68 "Waiting for a train" = 167,000 "That brings new lovers" = 1 + "Brings new lovers" = 2 "Her wailing ghost" = 3
Re: Count All the Stars by TLRufener	zodiac 212.38.134.51	7-Dec-05/6:05 AM
Let's try another approach. GOOGLE CLICHE COUNT "I sit quietly" = 20,700 "Sit in the dark" = 123,000 "Peering out the window" = 19,300 "Count all the stars" = 623 "Wish on every one" = 190 + "Wish on every star" = 769 "Until you come back" = 126,000 "You left me here" = 33,400 + "You left me alone" = 27,700 + "You left me sad" = 1,830 "You left the world behind" = 249 "Went on to a better place" = 786 "Sit here and wait" = 47,400 "For your return" = 566,000 + "Sit and wait for your return" = 125 "You said you'd come back" = 590 "Take me in your arms" = 120,000 "I sit in/on the windowsill" = 119 "Count all the stars" = 623 "I'm no longer lonely" = 580 "You hold me in your arms" = 20,100
Re: a comment on YOUR OWN PLEASURE by Zoe	zodiac 212.38.134.51	7-Dec-05/3:51 AM
In that sense, anybody who takes something seriously is actually parodying the parodist who makes fun of his seriousness. Yes, I see now...
Re: a comment on YOUR OWN PLEASURE by Zoe	Zoe 172.212.86.239	7-Dec-05/3:28 AM
Yes you are right. I can be a bit relaxed when describing the form of a poem. Like describing a fourteen liner without rhyme as a sonnet!
Re: a comment on YOUR OWN PLEASURE by Zoe	Zoe 172.212.86.239	7-Dec-05/3:27 AM
I'm about to start reading Zadie Smith's new book. I am not sure if I am going to like it, but I guess I should read it and find out. I also have the Booker Prize Winner to read - John Banville's The Sea.
Re: laugh again by skaskowski	zodiac 212.38.134.51	7-Dec-05/1:27 AM
A mobius strip is a metaphor. For the rim of a coin, among other things.