Re: a comment on Count All the Stars by TLRufener	zodiac 69.132.67.140	9-Dec-05/12:33 AM
Dovina and AlChemy are correct, except that I also googled phrases which were close or got to the gist of the image/connection/whatever - ie, "You left me here, alone and sad" => "You left me alone" + "You left me sad" + "you left me sad and alone" + "You left me alone and sad". I imagine the problem with making an automatic cliche counter would be getting it to do that, to search "Went to a better place" or "Went on to a better place" instead of "And went on to a better place", for example. That's easier for us, we already know what the cliches are. Ideally, an automatic cliche counter would also have to correct bad grammar, since that seems to go hand-in-hand with cliche on this site. The numbers, as you've guessed, are the number of google hits, roughly. I can only find one other GOOGLE CLICHE COUNT on poemranker's Search-o-Mat, but I'm sure there have been more, probably with more user-friendly formats. Naturally, GOOGLE CLICHE COUNT is only a very rough indicator of clicheness and, Dovina's snarky assessment notwithstanding, not meant by me as any real measure. (Though in its defense, notice that it managed to pick out Caducus's biggest cliches, "Promises were made" and "Waiting for a train". Incidentally, this doesn't mean that Caducus's poems are great, only that they're comparatively less cliche.) In deference to Dovina's sensibilities, I've at least decided that posting a TOTAL CLICHE COUNT at the end is unfair and unnecessary. So bite it, Dovina.
Re: loneliness untold by francis nor capule	candaliesa 69.106.144.180	8-Dec-05/10:23 PM
i have tryed to put into words how i felt after finding out my ex-husband cheated on me. the words just never seemed right. this poem is as close as i could find. i love it, yet hate it at the same time. for me it rings all too true....
Re: a comment on Snake in the Grass by thepinkbunnyofdoom	thepinkbunnyofdoom 66.213.67.10	8-Dec-05/3:16 PM
Ripping off 80s lyrics? The only music from the 80s I have listened to is a few punk rock bands, and even then I haven't listened to them since I was 19. During the 80s when I was a small child my parents only listened to country and the beatles, so... I don't think I could possibly know I was ripping off 80s lyrics. As for the rest of that, fuck you too. I was having a bad day when I read your last comment and I'm have a worse one today. As for writing the same crap, I'm fucking 21. Lot of life experiance that gives me huh? Same mistakes, how ever will I know that they are mistakes unless someone points them out to me(Besides the dryer doesn't even fucking start until you close the door, and we both know my head is way to big to let the dryer close)? Sorry I snapped, but oh well, goto hell, and the whatever else Later Daze <3 Jason
Re: a comment on Emma Barksdale by rahson_s	wilco 24.92.74.122	8-Dec-05/1:35 PM
Well that's actually pretty damn cool. Regarding the "definitely", I was thinking that "She, having difficulties living such a precious life." might be good..I don't know...whatever
Re: a comment on Relief (Ventilation Shaft rewrite) by cyan9	wilco 24.92.74.122	8-Dec-05/1:28 PM
Just because I don't get it is not necessarily a bad thing. I give more weight to a poem if I don't get it right away (Unless I don't get it because it just seriously doesn't make any sense). It shows me that the writer put some time and thought into it. These poems that people post on here that give every detail in mundane sentences get extremely old after a while (hence my commenting style). For example, id much rather read this eben though I'm not getting all of it (I get SOME of it) than some poem that goes: I got into my car and took a left at the bar and went downtown and bought a new gown. Then I went home and fell on the couch and went on Poemranker and rhymed love with above. That's just boring and was written in 2 seconds and is on par with many, many of the posts on here.
Re: Emma Barksdale by rahson_s	wilco 24.92.74.122	8-Dec-05/1:20 PM
I'm curious if you are the one who wrote this or if it is from Utopia Wright's journals. Also, I'm curious as to your connection to him. The poem is good but the "definitely" in the next to last line bothers me..I'm not really sure why. Other than that, I wouldn't change a thing.
Re: a comment on Relief (Ventilation Shaft rewrite) by cyan9	cyan9 84.12.172.126	8-Dec-05/1:19 PM
No one ever does, I try to make them simpler and simpler each time I write them, but still clarity is a skill that I try to embrace with one hand and push away with another. The first two stanzas are about venting anger, firstly through relaxation and secondly through creativity and material belongings, the third verse is about coming to a resolution for the anger, and working over your difficulies, reducing the need to vent.
Re: Relief (Ventilation Shaft rewrite) by cyan9	wilco 24.92.74.122	8-Dec-05/1:10 PM
Ok, I can dig this..It's pretty and has a lot of good imagery. I honestly don't know what the hell your talking about, but sometimes it doesn't matter.
Re: a comment on Emma Barksdale by rahson_s	rahson_s 65.217.153.100	8-Dec-05/1:03 PM
Thanks for the kind words. Im glad you enjoyed the site and the read.. until then.. Rahson_s-
Re: a comment on Better Off Dead by wilco	wilco 24.92.74.122	8-Dec-05/12:40 PM
Basic language afterthought: If I leave something like that, it means either: a. I think that you're better than I am at writing and that I couldn't improve your poem. b. I think your hopeless and boring and nothing I could say would help you improve.
Re: a comment on Better Off Dead by wilco	wilco 24.92.74.122	8-Dec-05/12:37 PM
Ok, then, let me explain it to you: I left that comment because anything I would've said had already been said. I didn't see a point in repeating what someone else had already said. I went into more detail about what I think on one of your recent posts (Dark's Nest or The Dark, one..). Your response was to tell me that I didn't understand it and that I need to dig deeper. That's the typical Poemranker response. The fact is that the poem didn't make me WANT to dig any deeper. As far as what you want out of a comment: 1. I've explained that I don't feel the need to repeat someone else's suggestion. If I feel that it needs something that someone hasn't said, I'll say it. If not, I simply leave a short comment to at least let them know that I read it. 2. If a poem provokes me to think of something interesting to write, I do. 3. Funny? I'm not a fucking comedian. 4. If you want me to be inspired and excited, write something to inspire and excite me. I've been on here for two years and I've learned who is going to use criticism and who's going to ignore it. Let's face it...you don't want me to critique your poem, you want me to tell you how great it is. Sorry.
Re: Emma Barksdale by rahson_s	cyan9 84.12.172.126	8-Dec-05/12:35 PM
By the way, the site sends more chills through me the more I read. Heart provoking.
Re: Emma Barksdale by rahson_s	cyan9 84.12.172.126	8-Dec-05/12:28 PM
Ouch.
Re: a comment on Better Off Dead by wilco	cyan9 84.12.172.126	8-Dec-05/10:14 AM
Constructive, interesting, funny or descriptive comments, rather than damp unenthused comments that sound like they have come from the mind of a man who has been tied to a chair whilst Rockmage receits his lifelong works. A good example of the commentry I am talking about is given on count all the stars by dancingshamrock: http://poemranker.com/poem-details.jsp?id=134711 (There is a number box to tell people whether it is good, bad or mediocre) I deleted the comments after a rewrite, they were of no use. I think it was along the lines of "Allright, sounds like a metallica song". I just think that something a little more constructive may help you and the recipient yield more from your commentry.
Re: Chills by BrandonW	cyan9 217.40.63.105	8-Dec-05/7:11 AM
Nice flow, borders on humour, good metaphors.
Re: Thespian by BrandonW	cyan9 217.40.63.105	8-Dec-05/7:09 AM
Poor, Im sure Ive read work by you that is much better than this. Im sure this represents something very emotional in your life, but the simplicity and lack of elegance makes me just not want to care. It adhears rigidly to some form or another to the cost of the piece.
Re: Hope by sliver	cyan9 217.40.63.105	8-Dec-05/6:51 AM
Nice + quaint pleasurable read, good image with the symbol in the snow. It lacked a bit in language and didnt do anything with rythm or flow but otherwise quite nice.
Re: a comment on Better Off Dead by wilco	wilco 24.92.74.122	8-Dec-05/6:21 AM
What gives? I didn't leave a comment like that on your last post.."The Dark". I don't know what I put on "Dark's Nest" because you deleted all the comments on that one. I'm just curious as to what kind of comments you would like me to leave?
Re: a comment on Better Off Dead by wilco	wilco 24.92.74.122	8-Dec-05/6:17 AM
First, lots of things outshine this. If I leave a short comment like that, it's usually for one of three reasons: 1) Someone has already made the suggestions that I would make and there's no sense in wasting time writing them again. This is usually the case. 2) I have made more extensive comments on that persons poems before and either they have informed me that they're no interested in my opinion or they have completely ignored me. 3) Because i think it's pretty good and if it can be improved, I'm not a good enough poet to tell them how to do it. As far as the "modern language", what other language anm I supposed to use? Would Olde English make it more original? In the future, being direct works better with me. If you think that my commenting sucks, then say that. Please don't be a smart ass. What? I've been a smart ass before? That's true, but only when I've told that person the same thing 100 times before....and when I'm in a pissy mood.
Re: The Third Fall Of Jesus by amanda_dcosta	cyan9 217.40.63.105	8-Dec-05/5:33 AM
You have definately achieved something here, since the piece has mustered enough interest for me to read the whole of it, and there is a lot of it. The piece loses realism in places where it appears you are yearning to be christian and pandering to christianity with aspirational images based on christ. I am not saying that you are not a christian, but I am saying that it appears that you are trying to be a christian (perhaps unnecessarily)