| Re: a comment on Les Imagistes by Nicholas Jones |
Nicholas Jones 86.135.241.4 |
1-Feb-06/10:06 AM |
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I did invent the duck image; I was sitting in the freezing cold by a frozen lake during my lunch break scribbling in my notebook.
The noise thiong comes from the fact it's a park just outside a town, so it is quiet in comparison but there's still the traffic noise.
The point I think is that imagism is too narrow; there are many other things going on in poetry than just the images. I think a very austere imagist poem can opnly work by excluding everything else; I'd rather have excess verbosity that encompasses more than a clinical precision that excludes. I've just been reading an anthology of imagist writers, and I read the poems and think yes, that's very nice, but where's the rest?
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| Re: a comment on Penny Loafer Blues by ALChemy |
ecargo 167.219.88.140 |
1-Feb-06/7:15 AM |
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dingdingding! Yeah, I missed that--guess I'm a bit of an Imagist in wanting my images connected, focused, but you're right--here, the flash of unconnected images against closed lids is a sort of falling-asleep sequence, freeflowing and disordered, like dreams. Cool.
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| Re: Les Imagistes by Nicholas Jones |
ecargo 167.219.88.140 |
1-Feb-06/7:10 AM |
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Imagism is considered more of a parallel to sculpture than to painting. So the idea of "purging" or paring seems very apt--rather than layering images they focus on the core, the clean lines.
This is clever because you practice what you preach--the seemingly extraneous imagery--the 7-inch, the opening stanzas. Thoughtful and thought-provoking.
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| Re: Giving in to a boring suggestion by Joe-joe |
ecargo 167.219.88.140 |
1-Feb-06/6:55 AM |
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Ha--cute. Want to take on my upstairs neighbors who walk on hard wood floors in high heels?
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| Re: a comment on The Book of Images by Dovina |
ecargo 167.219.88.140 |
1-Feb-06/6:39 AM |
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How well you know me, on the basis of so short an acquaintance! How perceptive! How perspicacious!
If the imagery is common, why do we need a poem to point it out? We know already--it's "common." They're idiomatic for a reason--"someone thought it was a good way of communicating," and apparently we agreed. Doesn't seem like you're saying much of anything at all.
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| Re: a comment on Penny Loafer Blues by ALChemy |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
1-Feb-06/6:06 AM |
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You should be an agent or an art dealer. You explain things better than I can. I think if you can make it work, changing the language in a poem instantly increases the attention of the reader. Thanks Ranger.
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| Re: a comment on Les Imagistes by Nicholas Jones |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
1-Feb-06/5:51 AM |
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See I thought we were the duck and his poem was the lake. I think I understand now. It's really wabbit season.
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| Re: a comment on Penny Loafer Blues by ALChemy |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
1-Feb-06/5:50 AM |
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But surely that's the idea of the dream wife; she is not just a homey real-life icon, she is something different, something new. Just as spending a moment looking through shut eyelids can bring up images of the less-than-ordinary and the beautiful (fresh lava, stained glass etc.) The contrast of language is a mirror for this, and in the end it's the real-life language that wins.
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| Re: a comment on The Book of Images by Dovina |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
1-Feb-06/5:42 AM |
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| Re: a comment on A Cleansing Of Creeds by Caducus |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
1-Feb-06/5:42 AM |
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What the monk, it says there are 3 other comments on here but I can't see them...nentwined, are you playing jokes again?
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| Re: a comment on Les Imagistes by Nicholas Jones |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
1-Feb-06/5:38 AM |
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Ah but if you take this philosophy the duck probably shot itself with the Duck-shot shell.
I actually love this poem, although it did take 3 reads to get round (*taps skull to check tiny brain is still there*).
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| Re: a comment on The Book of Images by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.32.104 |
1-Feb-06/5:37 AM |
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All it takes to get tens is to enumerate most of the conceivable ways to fit Jesus with a beard. And to delete comments would not be practicing what I preach. Methinks the Tempter knocketh at my door.
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| Re: A Cleansing Of Creeds by Caducus |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
1-Feb-06/5:34 AM |
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Stanza 4 should, ironically, become the atheists' creed.
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| Re: a comment on Valentine? by celticskatermatt1 |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
1-Feb-06/5:31 AM |
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Oh, and take out the comma in line one.
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| Re: Valentine? by celticskatermatt1 |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
1-Feb-06/5:30 AM |
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The penultimate line is far too long given how quick the rest of the poem is, line 6 is a bit cheesy, other than that a very readable ditty.
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| Re: a comment on The Book of Images by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.32.104 |
1-Feb-06/5:13 AM |
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The Bible, mostly. A bunch of Bible quotes, twisted and stuck randomly together.
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| Re: Les Imagistes by Nicholas Jones |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
1-Feb-06/5:09 AM |
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Your proposed method seems less like a duck on a frozen lake and more like a duck shot by a Duck-shot shell.
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| Re: The Book of Images by Dovina |
Caducus 80.168.238.107 |
1-Feb-06/1:48 AM |
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The meter might not work for some but it suits the tone of the poem. Also for me the truth in the first 4 lines of stanza 2 was spot on.
Favourited ! well done.
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| Re: The correct order of things by Stephen Robins |
Caducus 80.168.238.107 |
1-Feb-06/1:46 AM |
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Cool satire and how you view those who view different parts of society was done really well. Reminded me of hte Blur parklife album with its wit yet their was a sense of humor mixed in with acute observations.
Is this Dark Angel inspired? or are you not one of his many aka's?
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| Re: a comment on Generation Next, Fuck you(The Fake Out) by thepinkbunnyofdoom |
thepinkbunnyofdoom 216.196.149.35 |
31-Jan-06/9:51 PM |
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It is everything that was in my head at one moment, at one time. Flames of thought, burning bright, junping torch to torch in death, lighting dark recesses, buried beneath a coat of dust, being swept away, to be poured down the drain, as you question, these strange breath's that I call an answer, are merely images captured by a floating attention span, traslated to text in my passing with a computer screen.
<3 Jason
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