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The Book of Images (Free verse) by Dovina
Man has always pushed his arts to make them move and move us. From cave-drawn mastodons to Odyssey, he always seeks the means. Strip away the preaching, prophecy and teaching, things folks often quibble with. The majority remains— intriguing story, parable and image— visual aids and moving scenes. Sin is crouching at your door, we hear it said to Cain. A tree by living water, says the psalmist of a saint. Like windblown chaff, the wicked are. Like growing fruit, are good men’s deeds. God’s a shield around us with no apology given. And hearing we are salt, conjures preservation or holding back corruption. That wild donkey, Ishmael, Abraham and Hagar bore, how so his seed today? His eye is on the sparrow and sees the one that falls. Hear what you can hear. Lips that drip with honey, the end is bitter gall. Hear with ears to hear. A farmer sows his hard-won seed. Some falls where it cannot grow. But some take root in fertile earth. Without a parable, He hardly spoke. If a priceless treasure hides, buy the land that holds it, no matter what the cost. Wisdom is an ornament draped about your neck, and blameless hands are clean though working in the field. Like a watchman awaits the certain dawn, so live. Like a thief at night, I stole these words, And if faithful, will be stolen too.

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Weighted score: 5.7732067
Overall Rank: 1742
Posted: January 30, 2006 8:58 PM PST; Last modified: January 30, 2006 8:58 PM PST
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[n/a] ecargo @ 167.219.88.140 | 31-Jan-06/6:45 AM | Reply
I'd suggest cutting the first two verses--too much exposition. Or maybe just rework the lead in to make it more succinct.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > ecargo | 31-Jan-06/11:34 AM | Reply
“Weighed in the balance and found wanting,” like Nebuchadnezzar. I stripped away the preaching from the Bible, but not from my own work.
[n/a] ecargo @ 167.219.88.140 > Dovina | 31-Jan-06/2:31 PM | Reply
"Weighed in the balance . . . " by the Book of Daniel, maybe. Modern scholarship, based on archeology, treats him with a great deal more reverence: a king among kings.

So I see.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > ecargo | 31-Jan-06/2:57 PM | Reply
I don't mean to degrade the man any more than Daniel did.
[7] LilMsLadyPoet @ 207.69.137.10 | 31-Jan-06/8:31 AM | Reply
I would have ended it at "so live." or reworked the very last line. (I didn't like it at all.) I think you were very original with this! I love the first stanza, the second was a little weak, to me, though. 'Hear' used in both of the two stanzas? Thinking I would have altered that, as well.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > LilMsLadyPoet | 31-Jan-06/11:34 AM | Reply
But the last verse takes away the “wolf in sheep’s clothing” image that everyone has of me. (So many of our clichés come from the Bible.) The four uses of “hear” are redundant, yes, but the idea is so prevalent in the Bible that I wanted to emphasize it. Thanks, I appreciate your comments.
[10] Ranger @ 62.252.32.15 | 31-Jan-06/8:55 AM | Reply
I had to read this about three times over the course of today in order to get all the imagery here. I love this poem and I love the ending. To me, perfect!
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > Ranger | 31-Jan-06/11:34 AM | Reply
Thanks, Ranger. Funny how a verse repulses some and enthralls others. Just as many passages in the Bible do.
[8] zodiac @ 209.193.18.6 | 31-Jan-06/11:05 AM | Reply
Nice arrangement, but you've added very little.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > zodiac | 31-Jan-06/12:32 PM | Reply
Thanks, I intended to add nothing, but slipped in a few places.
[n/a] ecargo @ 167.219.88.140 > Dovina | 31-Jan-06/1:59 PM | Reply
Just curious--what was your intent here?

Putting a picture into a frame doesn't make you the creator of that picture--so what's the point of this? To signal appreciation? Something else?

Ever read "On First Looking into Chapman's Homer" by Keats? A good example of being inspired by beauty to make something equally (or more) beautiful.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > ecargo | 31-Jan-06/2:58 PM | Reply
To signal appreciation. I made it no more beautiful than it was, and probably less.
[n/a] ecargo @ 167.219.88.140 > Dovina | 31-Jan-06/3:01 PM | Reply
Lots to be appreciative of. I think AlChemy nailed it--if you made it more personal to you, it'd be more personal to us.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > ecargo | 31-Jan-06/3:16 PM | Reply
I disagree, because my interpretations would only anger you. It's better to let it stand uninterpreted, unstoried into my life in particular.
[8] ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 > Dovina | 31-Jan-06/3:56 PM | Reply
We would be assholes to disagree with you if you said, "This passage of The Bible means this to me." of course it does. It's when someone starts saying to us "this is what this passage means" that we start to argue differently. That's the point of imagery. To put you in the mindset of the artist. Being moved emotionally by the artwork is just a bonus. When a composer writes a march he inspires you to march not lifts your soul.
When you see a McDonalds commercial you're inspired to eat greasy food not experiencing a life changing moment. So do your thing girl and I'll try to be less of a smartass in the future.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > ALChemy | 31-Jan-06/4:47 PM | Reply
ecargo, or anyone else, is not likely to disagree that something in the Bible means something to me. He/she would, I believe, think that I should not feel that way about it, and might even say so. (If this discussion were happening on his/her poem, it would have all been deleted by now.) Someday, I will say what something in the Bible means to me, I’m sure of it, in some future poem or comment. But my purpose in this poem is simply to show that imagery in the Bible is very common, and to imply that someone thought it was a good way of communicating.
[n/a] ecargo @ 167.219.88.140 > Dovina | 1-Feb-06/6:39 AM | Reply
How well you know me, on the basis of so short an acquaintance! How perceptive! How perspicacious!

If the imagery is common, why do we need a poem to point it out? We know already--it's "common." They're idiomatic for a reason--"someone thought it was a good way of communicating," and apparently we agreed. Doesn't seem like you're saying much of anything at all.
[n/a] Dovina @ 17.255.240.138 > ecargo | 1-Feb-06/10:59 AM | Reply
Nothing much at all. That's right. Thank you for commenting.
[7] LilMsLadyPoet @ 207.69.137.39 > Dovina | 31-Jan-06/4:03 PM | Reply
Dovina, you said" I disagree, because my interpretations would only anger you. It's better to let it stand uninterpreted, unstoried into my life in particular." How beautiful is THAT?! anyway...an artist simply paints, then lets others gaze and interpret. (and appreciate.) Persoanlly, I like it just the way it is, original! If you had said what it means to you, and painted your self into it, then it would have been like everything else out there. I understand why you put the last stanza, and what it means. (Do not all writers do this?!)But... that is not the point of this piece.
[8] ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 > LilMsLadyPoet | 31-Jan-06/4:40 PM | Reply
Do you paint?
More importantly, do you paint simply?
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > LilMsLadyPoet | 31-Jan-06/4:48 PM | Reply
I’m glad you understand it that way. Everyone does not, and that, too, is alright. I chose an expository method (telling) over story or metaphor (showing) and don’t find that’s always bad.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > Dovina | 31-Jan-06/8:26 PM | Reply
Yes, and let me correct that.

He rode into town to collect his wages,
on a wild donkey, Ishmael’s seed,
wool on the beast and he alike,
and while in Rome, he did as the Romans,
Thus washing his hands of any sin.
He rode by the trees on the water’s bank
and the chaff the reapers let fly.
The trees bore fruit, but the chaff blew away,
and our concealed man’s sin
crouched at his door.
Though he was sweating, he tasted no salt.
Covered in wool, he felt no shield.
He saw a sparrow fall,
and felt he was watched,
found a treasure in a field,
and stopped to dig it up.
He felt a seed fall upon him
and smartly brushed it away.
He collected his wages alright
when his white mount fell in the mud.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > Dovina | 1-Feb-06/5:13 AM | Reply
The Bible, mostly. A bunch of Bible quotes, twisted and stuck randomly together.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > Dovina | 1-Feb-06/5:37 AM | Reply
All it takes to get tens is to enumerate most of the conceivable ways to fit Jesus with a beard. And to delete comments would not be practicing what I preach. Methinks the Tempter knocketh at my door.
[8] ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 > Dovina | 1-Feb-06/5:42 AM | Reply
Mwaahaahaaha!!
[n/a] Dovina @ 67.72.98.87 > ALChemy | 2-Feb-06/1:06 PM | Reply
Hey, Alchemy, what's going on? I know you made comments that preceeded my comments above, but where are they? Mine look kinda silly without them. I think you said it's ironic that my poem is about about imagery, but does not use imagery, to which I gave you a poem using imagry. You also said something about what it takes to get a 10, to which I spoke of Jesus' beard. Did you delete these comments?
[8] ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 > Dovina | 2-Feb-06/2:59 PM | Reply
Just an experiment. Didn't work though.
[8] ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 | 31-Jan-06/2:56 PM | Reply
I would rather you work these images into a story or into something about yourself than just list them. You could have shown how the images reflect off each other. Like Abraham seeing the ram with his head stuck in the thicket and Christ with his crown of thorns.
It was still well worth the read though.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > ALChemy | 31-Jan-06/3:06 PM | Reply
Yeah, the crown of thorns analogy is good. My purpose was rebuttal to michael_d’s recent rant about contradictions in the Bible, and to show appreciation for the metaphor and image usage throughout that interesting book. It’s so full of stories that any I write would likely be mere rewordings or take-offs.
[8] ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 > Dovina | 31-Jan-06/3:38 PM | Reply
That's kinda what I've always meant about finding the spirit of God in the Bible(through images and emotional effects) and not just reading the words but the spirit of the words. That's the only place I think you might find the true word of God.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > ALChemy | 31-Jan-06/3:46 PM | Reply
You have a way of summarizing that’s uncanny sometimes, and dyslexically dim at others. Sorry to sound blunt, but I mean it as compliment. It’s a foolish alchemist who makes unalloyed gold. Without the corruption of inferior mettle, gold is soft and unsubstantial. I don’t evaluate metals the way a jeweler with microscope glasses does. I rely on shine and feel, and the feel of this is right. It’s also right here:
http://poemranker.com/comment-recent.jsp?showall=false&skip=6 27-Jan-06/3:16 AM
[8] ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 > Dovina | 31-Jan-06/4:36 PM | Reply
"My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun."-Shakespeare
It's often in the little imperfections that we find the most unique beauty.
Dyslexics aren't dim. Many are genuises. We think with images more than with language so we tend to be more artistic too.
But I think you meant something like ironically dim.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > ALChemy | 31-Jan-06/5:10 PM | Reply
Yes, ironically.
[10] Caducus @ 80.168.238.107 | 1-Feb-06/1:48 AM | Reply
The meter might not work for some but it suits the tone of the poem. Also for me the truth in the first 4 lines of stanza 2 was spot on.

Favourited ! well done.
[10] amanda_dcosta @ 203.145.159.37 | 1-Feb-06/10:44 PM | Reply
Dovina.... very good. a good collection of images. I think I will vote you a -10-. I have been reading all the reviews here, and have taken note of advice given, for you to improve on your style, or write some matter of your own, (not to copy ideas) or to read other major poets(eg. Keats) etc. what I would like to point out is that, almost everybody copies ideas, or copy the style of some poet or the other. If Keats could have his style, or Blake have his, I don't see why you can't have your own style or view on what you want to present. So for that reason I think I'd vote you what I did. Am I being abstract?
[7] LilMsLadyPoet @ 207.69.139.135 > amanda_dcosta | 2-Feb-06/7:27 AM | Reply
LOL, Dovina...here again is that theory that we ARE all canibals! We consume, digest and regurgitate. Of course the mixture is always individually digested and spewn in some way unique, if we are lucky....
[n/a] Dovina @ 67.72.98.87 > LilMsLadyPoet | 2-Feb-06/1:14 PM | Reply
Yes, but some cannibals are cute, intriguing, interesting, insightful, or swing their hips in alluring manners.
[10] Ranger @ 62.252.32.15 > Dovina | 2-Feb-06/1:22 PM | Reply
Cannibals? No, they're far more likely to swing other peoples' hips in alluring manners.
As for the disappearing comments, I'm sure there's something not quite right going on at the moment, lots of poems are listed as having more comments than can be seen, and some are listed as having none when they have been commented on.
It's an enigma.
[n/a] Dovina @ 67.72.98.87 > Ranger | 2-Feb-06/1:36 PM | Reply
lol on the swinging hips.

If a comment is deleted, it still counts in the number of comments, so the counter is not a reliable guide. Also, if a poem has received comments, but no votes, the comments do not always enter the comment counter.

No, what happened to
Alchemy's comments needs a better explanation.
[10] Ranger @ 62.252.32.15 > Dovina | 2-Feb-06/1:38 PM | Reply
Ah, I understand now.
[10] Ranger @ 62.252.32.15 > Ranger | 2-Feb-06/1:40 PM | Reply
Can I request that you write a poem about cannibalism and hip swinging? Or am I being too cheeky here?
[n/a] Dovina @ 67.72.98.87 > Ranger | 2-Feb-06/1:44 PM | Reply
Nothing on poemranker is too cheeky. Ask away, but personal experience always leads to the best poems, and I have never swung nor been swung.
[10] amanda_dcosta @ 203.145.159.44 > Dovina | 2-Feb-06/9:36 PM | Reply
You're waiting for Tarzan, I presume. Sorry, he's busy with Jane. maybe, when she's not around you might be lucky.
[n/a] Dovina @ 67.72.98.87 > amanda_dcosta | 2-Feb-06/1:15 PM | Reply
Thanks for the ten, but it is really a very simplistic poem, designed only to show that much of the Bible is composed of images. When they say I am merely copying and saying the obvious, they are correct.
[10] amanda_dcosta @ 203.145.159.44 > Dovina | 2-Feb-06/9:46 PM | Reply
It's okay to copy. Aren't we all copying someone or the other, as long as the collection is what you wanted in. That's where I point out that you have your say in what you want to put in - collect bits and pieces of others' work.
[10] Glasseyez @ 204.49.132.59 | 9-Feb-06/9:38 PM | Reply
I really like this one
[10] Caducus @ 80.229.129.138 | 11-Dec-07/4:45 AM | Reply
back savouring this again, it gets better each time i read it.

Merry X.
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