| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.32.104 |
7-Mar-06/3:49 PM |
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I don't know God, and maybe I know God. I see no conflict here. It's like saying I don't know God, but maybe what I think about Him is actually knowing Him, in part, of course. It's a paradox and a pleasant way of thinking.
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
7-Mar-06/3:48 PM |
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I'm not trying to Dark Angel you and I hope you aren't trying to do the same. Obviously nobody here can tell were your jokes end and your seriousness begins or is it visa-versa. Don't worry though I still find your coyness in these aguments adorable.
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.32.104 |
7-Mar-06/3:43 PM |
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We are talking about our perceptions of God, yours and mine. My perception is not the typical Christian God of the Bible, though I respect the Bible. I mix in my emotions about God, some logic, philosophy, and ideas from Buddahism and other faiths. Call it Dovina's god, if you wish, but I think there is only one God. Heck, I've even begun to consider some aspects of Alchemy's God.
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
7-Mar-06/3:36 PM |
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
7-Mar-06/3:35 PM |
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"Did I use logic to explain God? - Only in saying that if He is God, then he is above our understanding and above our rules."
Summary: I don't know God.
"Did I preach to you, saying "God is this, God is that"? I have feelings about God as you do, but I don't think I presented mine to you as truths to be heeded."
Summary: I still don't know God.
"Did I say that I know God? Well maybe I did. It says somwhere that God created me in His image, created all of us in His image. I like to think of the autonoimy that imples, and contained in it, the ability to relinquish my freedom or to use it creatively, in some small image, as God created."
Summary: OK, maybe I know God.
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
7-Mar-06/3:29 PM |
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All I've been saying over and over is that I believe in god for no particular reason besides the strong sense I have of his existence. D.A. may be right, maybe it's just gas. You, I assume are referring to the biblical god for which you have contradicted several times. See as soon as you start to define god, even in the vaguest of ways you automatically start setting up rules around him. You can define God as he who is beyond rules but then by rule he is beyond rules even if he chooses to be within rules. So that in itself is a rule for he must be able to do whatever he wants. Even something that is undefined is by rule without a sure definition aside from the definition that it is not yet defined. Only if you go outside any logical description can you make god exempt from any rule or law. Christians often use your kind of double talk when confronted with defending the logic behind god. Of course if you're just talking about Dovina's god then this conversation truly was pointless.
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.32.104 |
7-Mar-06/3:18 PM |
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Smart people don't have to make sense either.
I am teetering between thinking you are joking with me and thinking that you are totally serious. Our differences are small - really, that's what I think. And I don't think I have changed any of my statements to make a better argument. I think my position has been the same all along. I hope you have not taken the absurd things I have said as serious. I'll point them out for you if you ask, but in the past, you have usually known when I am joking.
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| Re: missing pieces by mystic enoch |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
7-Mar-06/3:17 PM |
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The first few lines reminded me of one of those dreaded Christmas CD tunes...luckily I don't know the name of the song otherwise I would have to go and wash my ears out with hot rubber, which is never a joyful hobby.
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| Re: Four Seasons by mystic enoch |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
7-Mar-06/3:09 PM |
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Heh, quite nice - although I think you meant 'shone' (line 6). I do like the last two lines, they made me smile. An 8 should undo some of the damage caused by rockmage's (rather impressive) zeroing marathon.
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| Re: Man Enough For Me by mystic enoch |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
7-Mar-06/3:05 PM |
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You're looking for an IKEA flat-packed, six-packed, self-assemble insta-chap. Sadly they went off the production line shortly after market research revealed that they didn't actually exist. Scientific theory now suggests that you go for a slightly more tricky option and grow one. You don't have to grow him from scratch, but even the finest specimen requires a little personal cultivation. It might not be quick and convenient, but I'm sure it'll be more rewarding in the long run.
We're not all totally useless though, honest.
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| Re: Wish You Were Here by mystic enoch |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
7-Mar-06/2:57 PM |
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I actually quite like this...not original, but sweet nonetheless. As Mr. M. Stipe once said, sweetness follows.
PS - Bollocks to Internet Exploder for repeatedly screwing up as I'm posting comments...
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| Re: Read me by mystic enoch |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
7-Mar-06/2:50 PM |
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I've read you. And I think that you could write yourself more effectively. Let me explain.
You have nobody to share your thoughts with - therefore you write poetry as a means of sharing them. This is a good start. Yet it could, poetically speaking, get so much better from there onwards. Try writing this in metaphor. Don't write it from the first person; as it stands you are spoonfeeding the reader this whereas you want to make said reader think about what you're saying. It's quite tricky for me to explain what I mean without writing your poem out for you - but I've tried something similar (although with a different purpose) in my 'Struggling Poet's Lament'.
Basically, I want to read about you, but I want it to be a game of hide-and-seek rather than just seeing you straight away. Does that make sense? If not, I'll try and rephrase what I said.
7...you're doing okay :)
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.32.104 |
7-Mar-06/2:43 PM |
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Where did I change what I said?
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.32.104 |
7-Mar-06/2:39 PM |
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David did it in the Psalms, why can't I?
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
7-Mar-06/2:39 PM |
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Unlike God, Dovina can say whatever she wants because she's crazy and crazy people don't have to make sense.
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
7-Mar-06/2:33 PM |
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So now you've reduced your god to someone you could scold. Good for you.
"Bad God, look what you did!"(she then rubs his nose in his crap).
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| Re: Portals to you by Caducus |
Dovina 69.175.32.104 |
7-Mar-06/2:32 PM |
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Number disagreement in every verse but 3 i.e., plural/singular. Portals are lint ghosts, for example, not lint ghost. "twelve goodbye's" should be goodbyes. Some missing commas. But I like the dawn of 12 goodbyes.
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| Re: a comment on There by Dovina |
ALChemy 24.74.100.11 |
7-Mar-06/2:18 PM |
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That's my point. None of us are God's psychologist. It's one thing to say you believe in God, It's another to say you know for instance that he has no hair on his balls. What she's doing is contradicting the bible from which she basis her God on. I'm only saying that I feel his presence but I can't and won't try to define it. Then she goes and changes what she says so that it'll make for a better argument. How blasphemous is that?
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| Re: a comment on Piano by Dovina |
Ranger 62.252.32.15 |
7-Mar-06/1:26 PM |
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I didn't know that crocodiles smile, but I always pictured them having very smug expressions on their faces just before they ate the hapless explorer...
Yeah, I thought harmonies might be going too far - who knows, maybe it'll feature some other time? (Yes, I admit to being unnecessarily optimistic sometimes...)
Anyway, I look forward to seeing what you do with this poem!
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| Re: a comment on Piano by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.32.104 |
7-Mar-06/1:16 PM |
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Wow, âscalesâ used as a pun for crocodile scales, which reminds of crocodile tears. And crocodiles smile too, did you know that? So smiles, tears and scales are crocodile puns. Then chords can also the bonds that tie up the monster. But you push me too far with âharm(onies)â â cheesy indeed. Then there is jazzed and jagged, the beginning and the end. Thanks, thatâs what Poemranker should be.
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