Blue Magpie
on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina
13 Mar 2006, 11:18 PM
The poem has a certain music to it, but the discussion---don't any of you people have anything else to do?
I think it would be much stronger if you left out the line Because I've matured, the rest is quite nice.
Keep going. until you run out of logic or it turns benign or rediculous. like my spelling. gah. really. finish this.
hums
and whirrs and tinks a sconce
The two 'ands' stand out a bit unpleasantly,
I would also agree that that the anthropomorphism of the inanimate is a a bit distracting, especially 'adoringly'. It just doesn't seem very floorish, anyway if floors adore anything its plush carpet not the people who walk on it. Perhaps what you really have hear is a temporal throughback from the future, and echoe of the house where every part has its own personality, such as the doors somewhere in The Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy
As counting is used to collect things into groups based on there simularities how can you talk about yourself as being unique? My guess is the same way you talk about things you don't know. Nice idea though.
i am completely baffled with this one. maybe my two year break from poetry really disconnected me from the poetic beat or something
If there's anything wrong here, I can't find it. I saw a girl being tortured by others on an amusement ride or she was forced to ride and she didn't want to. Now I'm going to read the remarks and see how I did.
A good bed-time read until I come to emotional responses in your fixtures, "in approval" or "adoringly." I'm not sure I like a snooping floor.
Except for stanza 2 this made me think of a news photographer, possibly a war reporter in a darkroom developing photographs (not that he'd be doing much else in a darkroom, I assume). Not sure what to make of stanza 2.
I like the choice of language here, although it's fairly zany in places it nonetheless retains a semblance of sense. I struggle with 'Diphthong's ripe imbalance' though.
Enjoyed. 8
I don't know the Bob and Tom show, but this was still good fun.
Fantastic beat. I thought you started out talking about trying to walk across a romp-a-room full of kids and their toys. HA! I just got back from Madison, where I read Bookends and Trapped in a horseshoe aloud to a crowd of....7? It seemed to go well.
My ex is a mathematician, and though I didn't come away from our relationship with much real knowledge or understanding of mathematics, I did come away with some appreciation of mathematical aesthetics (in part from long hours spent struggling with _Godel, Escher, Bach_ and the like). He had a knack for making me understand, if only superficially and mostly by analogy (not being math brained), why he saw such beauty in numbers (even if, as Erdos said, ". . . you don't see why [numbers are beautiful], someone can't tell you. I know numbers are beautiful. If they aren't beautiful, nothing is.")
Your treatments, frankly, don't make me see that beauty. I'm not saying that to be a jerk. Maybe it's that you don't give enough information or make the necessary connections. Or maybe it's that your observations seem, I don't know, somewhat contradictory or superficial. For example--what's the significance of 183? It's not a prime (though you go on to extol primes). It's odd, true, but so? Maybe the problem is that I just don't bring the necessary math chops to the table, but I don't think it's that alone.
You tap into a long tradition of seeing numbers as divinely inspired (I think that's part of what you're saying), from Gallileo to Erdos (not a believer, but he liked the divine analogy well enough) and beyond. And the reference to the the Platonic--abstract, unchanging truths--gives this some context it might otherwise lack. But some of it doesn't seem to hang together or perhaps just isn't fleshed out enough.
I do think your subject choices are often unusual and ambitious, which is commendable. And you do have a knack for inspiring reaction!
consider yourself part of the furniture
very self referencial of this poem to self reference as it does so.
Yeah...a few too many pulses for my tastes. Possibly consider putting in a b/p/d sound on each beat to give the sound of the heartbeat (does that make any sense?)
were you a math major in college?
i would vote this a ~`&* but that option isnt available so a 7 will have to suffice.
Another enjoyable ditty, particularly the semi-repetition 'sliding/siding' at the beginning and end. Is 'dryer' part of a truck (as I assume washers are)? Nice onomatopoeic tricks.
I trust you don't have to live in your motor all winter?
You manage what most can't, namely angst without pimples! This is a very smooth piece of prose - the conclusion was the most effective part; not entirely original but then again, when you can write this well novelty doesn't always matter.
A top-notch read.
Pretty, I'd agree with changing 'outta' though.