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We visited the gay men on the veranda (Free verse) by Frass We visited the gay men on the veranda
my wife and I traded nervous laughter
and looks.
So strange to me
calling each other 'girl!'
suddenly, whirling and crooning
to an old Supremes hit
another has a fit
over some prankish indiscretion
between his boyfriend and another
blush-cheeked, man-child, loverly she-creatures
I love them
but, brotherly.
Up the ladder:
Grief
Down the ladder:
Jesus was a necromancer
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Posted: September 12, 2002 8:40 PM PDT; Last modified: September 12, 2002 8:40 PM PDTWeighted score: 4.449502 Overall Rank: 12894 Comments:
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royalflesh @ 64.170.52.79
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12-Sep-02/9:00 PM
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right...you wanted to touch them to see if those muscles were real of not. Interesting tid-bit of "Real-Life" ... but seriously...is this something worth writing about?? Like it, but would rather read Dr. Seuss.
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<~> @ 24.44.185.41
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12-Sep-02/9:02 PM
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is Frass outing himself (as straight), right here on poemrancor?!!
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Frass @ 138.88.17.81
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12-Sep-02/9:14 PM
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Yeah, Zzin; I'm as straight as a two dollar bill. Dang, gal, you're on this site alot; good! Royalflesh, I'm observing a moment in time and my reaction to it in simple language.
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deleted user @ 167.206.181.179
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16-Sep-02/11:53 AM
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he had to sooner or later, what with all the conjecture...
This is worth writing about. It needs some fixing up but I like it. I give you some suggestions but I'm having a tantrum right now so I'll get back to it in a few days.
This is funny - I especially like your last couple of lines.
Funny or goofy? Hmmm. that is a tough one. Any way biker Frass, lol, 52 weeks a year. Did you visit the girls specifically or did you just happen to be on the veranda and visit "with" them. The nervous laughter and looks makes me think this is spontaneous which throws the title out of context and bothers me. Plus, it sounds just trite. Is this like the first time you have ever encountered anybody outside of your shell. I bet you just love seeing boys in lycra, muscles bulging, sweat pouring, pounding Gary Fisher pedals 52 weeks a year. ummm. Yummy. When I cum out to VA will you be my bitch?
there's a lot of it about ; i'm surprised you were surprised . nice pome though ... no need to emphasise your non-gayness methinks ... 5
you're such a fag.....lol! "brotherly", as you secretly queef in the night....sounds more like a boring bunch of queens to me...oh yeah...and redundant. enjoy!f
Thanks, all. The scene was 6 heteros and two dozen gay guys in a too small apartment party for Gay Pride weekend festivities in Wash., DC. Definitely could be better expressed so that reader doesn't get bogged down with 'is the author gay?', 'is he trying too much to deny that he is?' type stuff. But, when was the last time you read a hetero male poet/author write of gay men..."I love them"?
Really, though, who cares? We could care a less the explanation behind it. Put it in the poem. Tell us there. If you are gay, good for you. sweaty boys in lycra are hot!
ha!
"brotherly," my ass.
Balthazar is wise and can rate
Frass's true sexual state the bringer of myrrh doesn't concurr the dear writer really is straight
my dear man! you ramble so! the ranker will be here for you when you wake!
i'll give you my assessment which side of the line frass walks on sunday. we'll be meeting up in washington at the war protest.
You guys are nuts! The poem is a simple description of your feelings around gay men and how you view them.
Oh and guys he clearly states he has a wife.
Frass is a fag.
and you've never known a gay married man? WHAT college do you attend? protected and safe and normal university?
Amalea, you are a breath of fresh aire amidst the green and purple fog spewed by those who licked up too many leaded paint chips when they were young. However, Zzin is certainly right, many gay men and women hide behind hetero 'marriages'. Our friends in DC that night were more of the 'in your face' variety of homosexual. I posted this one in the hopes of stirring up some discussion and more comments for my poems; guess I struck paydirt!
Stereotyperiffic!
Zpvj, I like poets who make up words; creative wordsmithery. Did you make this one up? At least I wasn't homophoberiffic. The night I write of here, it was the gay guys who were their own worst stereotypers.
Me and my friends make up words all the time; it's a geek-culture tradition (see http://www.tuxedo.org/jargon/). As for stereotypes- yes, these particular gay men reinforced the stereotype because they were so noticeably effeminate. But you probably don't notice the hundreds of gay men you see otherwise who -don't- fit the stereotype, because they look and act like every other man. The squeaky wheel gets noticed, and all.
No you can always tell. I can always tell. I'm always right. You're not gay, for instance. Frass thinks he isn't but is. Horus8 is very, very gay. Clark Gable gay. Alec Guinness gay. John Gielgud with Laurence Olivier in the handicapped stall gay.
YOU SHOULD REWRITE THIS ONE PRETENDING YOU WERE IGGY POP (PRE-BOWIE): WHEN IT SOUNDS WRITE SUNG ALOUD YOU'VE DONE IT RIGHT. DO SOMETHING LIKE "GIMME DANGER" WITH AIDS.
I enjoyed the illustration
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