Dovina
replying on I have Learned to Let Go by Joe-joe
23 Dec 2004, 6:37 PM
Only you think I think that's a contradiction.
These theories are different.
ass wagon, you retributor
You've lost me here. Except for a few glimmers, I'm looking into darkness. What's going on?
It is not obvious where you get the idea that I believe poetry is magical. Your argument does not support your opening statement. Poems that fail to embrace the rules of logic can actually be good poems if they are well written from a sentimental, emotional, or other non-logical perspective. They are inherently no more or less magical than logically written poems.
You have given an example a an unsophisticated man trying to talk and perhaps write among sophisticates, and not doing as good a job of it as a professor could. I see no relevance of this example to the subject.
I agree with you that to be able to transform an idea is to better communicate it. But there are many ways to do that.
Look the point is it's not an original quote. It's smeared all over the internet, for starters. Then there's the fact that you've also heard it before. The Tanguy link was just one example. Are you seriously suggesting blacksoul independently invented it?
A child who is understood becomes someone who understands.I was taught that all my young life.
It is obvious where we get the idea you believe poetry to be magical. You seem to believe that poems that fail to embrace the rules of logic can actually be good poems. As for this poem, you fail to communicate any insight on the subject. Where in the poem does it talk about imagination and poetic ability.
I would add that the most important thing in translating an idea into a poem is that you understand the idea. Take for instance 'A dedication to the Golden Bird~' by Bhaskaryya. The poet who is a negro has clearly been told that having negroes in white society is good. However he has no idea why, so he clumsily throws in words like ethnicity and diversity hence being unable to make any insight whatsoever. Why do you think professors are better at explaining theories to students than other students who merely understand the basics. To understand is to be able to transform and hence better communicate an idea.
More kind to whom?
begin-agains
Again you have said opposites and then attempted to unite them. Alas, I accept bumness as your most current opinion of me. And as such I write bum poems. Where you get the idea that I think poetry is magical or ephemeral, escapes me.
How well would a painter, or a truckdriver like INTRANSIT, or a sculptor like auscot, or a painter like van Gogh, write poetry. That, of course depends on two things - having the imagination needed to put a well understood profession into commonly understandable terms, and poetic ability. Are we clear now? This whole discussion seems insanely inane. I'm bored!