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time (3rd draft) (Haiku) by Adriaan
Goldfish contemplate raindrops rippling the surface Ice ends disturbance

Down the ladder: Feel Like A Failure

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Arithmetic Mean: 4.5
Weighted score: 4.976287
Overall Rank: 8278
Posted: February 5, 2006 11:06 PM PST; Last modified: February 6, 2006 12:21 PM PST
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[7] richa @ 81.178.221.104 | 6-Feb-06/4:54 AM | Reply
Is this about how one of the dimensions of the universe is visible only to goldfish. If so I agree.
[7] richa @ 81.178.221.104 | 6-Feb-06/4:56 AM | Reply
goldfish contemplates raindrops
on an autumn pond. (13 syllables) I have saved you four syllables to say something interesting.
[n/a] Adriaan @ 198.54.202.18 > richa | 6-Feb-06/7:13 AM | Reply
"We are like" - this is the part that says something interesting. Just as the goldfish do not see the origin of the raindrop, so we do not see the origin of events, only the ripples that they cause.
[n/a] ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 > Adriaan | 6-Feb-06/7:21 AM | Reply
What do you really think he's thinking?
I think he's thinking "bbrrbblbllgrrbbll-bloopploop".
[n/a] zodiac @ 209.193.9.218 > ALChemy | 6-Feb-06/7:30 AM | Reply
That's 5 syllables. What a shame.
[n/a] zodiac @ 209.193.9.218 > ALChemy | 6-Feb-06/7:31 AM | Reply
"Not again."
[n/a] zodiac @ 209.193.9.218 > Adriaan | 6-Feb-06/7:30 AM | Reply
"We are like" doesn't mean any of those things, sorry.
[7] richa @ 81.178.221.104 > Adriaan | 6-Feb-06/8:04 AM | Reply
I disagree. Every goldfish I know that can contemplate also understands the hydrological cycle.
[7] richa @ 81.178.221.104 | 6-Feb-06/8:05 AM | Reply
By the way you should learn what a haiku is, that and a metaphor.
[n/a] Adriaan @ 198.54.202.18 > richa | 6-Feb-06/9:26 AM | Reply
Does similie count for anything? I've changed the opening line to a metaphor - please comment.
[9] Ranger @ 62.252.32.15 | 6-Feb-06/8:27 AM | Reply
It's a nice three-liner, but it isn't a metaphor. Change the first three words; the idea of a haiku is that it is metaphorical.
[n/a] Adriaan @ 198.54.202.18 > Ranger | 6-Feb-06/9:18 AM | Reply
Thanks. Please see the revised version and comment.
[9] Ranger @ 62.252.32.15 > Adriaan | 6-Feb-06/9:34 AM | Reply
Better, although I feel it's still lacking something. Haikus are really tough to get right; I've never yet written one that I've been happy with. Hopefully the more experienced poets here will be of more use than me, because the idea behind this is really quite good.
[9] Ranger @ 62.252.32.15 > Ranger | 6-Feb-06/10:22 AM | Reply
I'd appreciate your views on my recent attempt, if you have the time.
[9] Ranger @ 62.252.32.15 > Ranger | 6-Feb-06/1:12 PM | Reply
Okay, I much prefer this version. The only thing from my view is that the second line's a syllable too long - I pronounce 'rippling' with 3 syllables. If you don't pronounce it that way, disregard what I've said, if you do then all I'd do is get rid of 'the'. Other than that, perfect!
[n/a] Adriaan @ 198.54.202.18 > Ranger | 7-Feb-06/12:03 AM | Reply
I do pronounce it as 'ripp/ling' - the wonders of a South African accent :) I originally used 'ripple' in this version, but I felt that it was a bit stilted. What's you opinion?
[9] Ranger @ 62.252.32.15 > Adriaan | 7-Feb-06/3:14 AM | Reply
Keep it as it is; there is no such thing as a universally pronouncable haiku. As I said, I really like the idea behind it, and this draft is much more haiku-esque.
[7] richa @ 81.178.221.104 | 6-Feb-06/2:50 PM | Reply
It looks more like a haiku. Haikus demand economy. They often have two images the second cutting across the first. They have no message as such. They are sensory. If you think you have some interesting wisdom do an epigram.
[n/a] Adriaan @ 198.54.202.18 > richa | 7-Feb-06/12:03 AM | Reply
or perhaps a senryu?
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