regarding some deleted poem...	24-Aug-02/12:09 PM
I'd also like to point out, if I may, that this is poemeranker, not feelingranker. The beauty and tenderness of someone's feelings are irrelevant unless they have actually written a good poeme about them. Here are some other true propositions!! 1. Constantly attributing disparaging comments to bitterness and/or jealousy, especially when the disparaging comments are directed toward such clearly awful crap, is a sign of an addled mind. 2. I have nothing to do with razorgrin, nor she me. 3. Many people who frequent this site appear to have replaced their senses of irony with increased senses of self-satisfaction, and tendencies for smug dogma-espousing. 5. 50% of the ridiculous abuse directed toward me has been a direct result of me taking the piss out of their poetry. Another 20% is the result of people becoming angry when they read my poemes, apparently because I'm not writing mature, sensitive poetry that challenges our preconceptions of love, mortality and the universe. Another 10% is the result of people being angry because they do not find my poemes amusing. The remaining 10% is the Sacred 10%. Nobody knows what that is.
Re: Three Daughters by <~>	24-Aug-02/12:12 PM
Awkward, formulaic gushing - the best way to show your poetic appreciation!!
regarding some deleted poem...	24-Aug-02/2:35 PM
A person who speaks only in catchy proverbs is no more profound or correct than one who doesn't. Instead of actually backing up anything you ever say, you simply try to put them off the scent by meaninglessly moralising at them. You don't seem to understand the concept of someone giving their honest opinion about horseshit without them having some deep psychological problem or attempting to 'dictate' to people.
regarding some deleted poem...	24-Aug-02/2:37 PM
But seriously guys, I think we should all have a moment of silence in memory of IgotIssuez99. She was a valued member of poemeranker, and perhaps if you'd all behaved yourselves just a little better she'd still be with us today. Let's take this opportunity to reflect on our lives and think how we could be nicer to newcomers, ok? Great! And remember - stay positive!
Re: Turnarounds by dilips_10	24-Aug-02/2:40 PM
lol!! i guess we all make mistakes sometimes huh?!
regarding some deleted poem...	24-Aug-02/3:40 PM
god'swife. I'm not sure where you're getting all these wond'rous fantasies about the contents of my mind, but they're about as misguided as they are trite. Is this your attempt at 'Immature Self-Centred Brat Putdown #3'? Smug briskness is all well and good, but it's nice to put in a meaningful proposition or even (dare I say it?) a fact along with all the truisms and catchphrases. Let's see... 1. The 'them' was the hypothetical other person in the conversation with you. I'm not sure why I'm bothering to clarify this, since it's become increasingly obvious that you'd rather ignore the thread of the discussion in favour of amateur psychoanalysis. 2. 'No-one cares'. Cares about what? Is this supposed to be a put-down? Please explain. 3. 'You rationalise your cruelity as being the raison d'etre of poemranker'. Wow! I didn't know you were a qualified psychologist. Why don't you tell me where you got that little tidbit of wisdom from? I'll have a guess, if that's alright. You've put me in the 'arrogant & needs to be taken down a peg or two, needs attention and can only get it through cruelty and showing-off' pigeon-hole. Sorry, wrong one. Perhaps you've been reading too many child psychology books? A little evidence or justification, something like that would be nice once in a while. 4. 'Maybe some day you'll have the balls...' I hate to tell you this, but the reason I don't leave comments on your poemes is not because I'm afraid of you, but because your poetry doesn't interest me. It inspires me not to heights of joy nor to depths of frustration, but to the grey plains of 'fuck me, this is exciting'. I realise that poetry is largely a personal matter, so since I have nothing to say on the more technical aspects of it, why say anything? You apparently consider yourself as knowing my moyivations; it might be nice to actually read my explanations of same (in reply to poetandknowit recently). And far from fearing your wrathful and just put-down of my cowardly bullying, I simply don't wish to hear your formulaic thoughts on my motivations. Not everything's as simple as on Oprah. Number whatever: You have as much a right... Yes, obviously. Who ever said otherwise? Oh, sorry. For a minute I thought you were raising a genuine point, not just aimlessly moralising. The only difference is that while I usually offer my opinions on people's poemes, you're offering your opinions on morality and motivations. Justice, etc. Whatever you say. This isn't the land of the free and the home of the brave. It's poemranker, where criticism is surely be more relevant than a bullied girl's wish-fulfilment ideals of protecting the meek. Finally, and I know this is probably asking too much, but would you consider responding to any of the points I've made in the last two or three comments? (Or doesn't that fit in with the plan of acting aloof and above petty argument?) Have a great one!!
regarding some deleted poem...	24-Aug-02/4:43 PM
Excuse me? 'Format'? If by 'the Dark angel format' you mean 'putting forward points and defending those points in order to establish a conclusion', then yeah, I did expect that you'd argue in that 'format', although it's not so much a 'format' as a 'description of what "argument" means'. Sorry if that definition is too tight for you to spread your righteous wings! Next on the list of wonders... No, I haven't contradicted myself. My suppositions about you weren't important to my point (or should I say "defense"?) Your accusations of me ARE your point. As for your laughable declaration of emancipation, I think you need to realise that nobody's trying to constrain you. No, not even me. Finally, don't overestimate your unconventionality. You're about as enigmatic as a mug. It's not so much that you don't make sense to me as that you're barking up the wrong tree entirely. Bye now!
Re: Three Daughters by <~>	24-Aug-02/4:59 PM
Who the fuck knows what this site is... since you ask for my opinion, whether in jest or not, I'll give it to you. However, don't expect it to be insightful (and above all, try not to be constrained, since I have a nasty habit of dictating to people and trying to force them into playing by my petty rules). The writing is pleasing, and what imagery I can 'get' is interesting, but I don't understand what is supposed to be going on 'really'. I also thought the second half of the fourth stanza (paragraph, whatever it's called) is hard on the eyes. It reminds me of Erik the fucking Viking, or something. If there was a greased old man in the sea it would be better in my estimation.
Re: Daddy by mishy_lee	26-Aug-02/3:04 PM
While I'm sure your sorrow is both beautiful and deep, your expression of it is facile and stupefyingly dull. I might have thought that it was intentionally 'childlike', but the last verse strikes me as unintentionally shit. What are you trying to achieve here? Are you attempting to say something that mere prose couldn't say? Are you experimenting with new forms of poetic expression? Or are you just trying to make your expression of grief rhyme? Contrary to popular belief, things that rhyme aren't more true or deep than things that don't rhyme. 10/10!!!
Re: father Worked Nights by poetandknowit	26-Aug-02/3:08 PM
I realise this is probably a 'serious' poeme, but 'using the cat and mother for his steel' is hilarious. I'm going to give this 10 because that's what all the mature people who really appreciate poetry do.
Re: father Worked Nights by poetandknowit	26-Aug-02/5:07 PM
Pfft. You've been paying too much attention to god'swife. Cruelty has nothing to do with it. It's just an amusing phrase, partly because 'mother' can be construed as being in the scope of the 'the', i.e. 'the cat and the mother'. The other reason it's funny is that the combination of cats and violence is inherently funny, at least in principle. I'm sure in reality it may be less funny.
Re: Yesterday I cried by 1Sapphire1	26-Aug-02/5:15 PM
I don't know what naughty religion you're from, but in the kingdom of Jesu, dead people don't turn into angels. I also think that you have substituted bland sentimentality for actual content. There is too much exposition and not enough evocation. But hey, that's just my opinion! I would never try to tell you what to do! Probably, I just don't understand! Have a great one! 10/10!!!
Re: Aids in a van - are you local? by ==Doylum	27-Aug-02/6:20 AM
Curses! The secret is out! Was this inspired by visiting that particular part of Royston Vasey the other night, or did you just spontaneously decide to remember? (P.S. It's "Legz Akimbo"). For your insolence, I give thee a 10. You shall never be King of the Worst Poemes Section.
Re: School by shwenatjadeflower	27-Aug-02/6:23 AM
shwentahtadndjadlower, you should know that Doylum is a) deceitful, b) a perv and c) he's captured Father Christmas, and if you get too close he'll capture you too. Only Jesu knows what horrors would result then...
Re: Awesome Heir by Shin-Bojangles	27-Aug-02/6:28 AM
I object to the use of the term 'boob'. Please spell it 'b00b'.
regarding some deleted poem...	27-Aug-02/6:42 PM
dealwithit: Sorry if this is an inappropriate place to reply to god'swife's (undoubtedly appropriate) comment. I have nothing to say about your poetry that won't be triumphantly leapt on by the soi-disant champion of justice here. So, god'swife. "They're on a crusade..." No. I'm not sure why I have to tell you again, but I'm not on any sort of "crusade", especially of the sort you seem to think. "Don't take it personally, although they will." No. I really don't. Do you? After all, you seem still pissed off after the little tiff we had the other day. Haven't you finished? Didn't you get all the nanny bullshit off your chest when you told me off for saying "pussy"? Do you really have to take it on yourself to go around "warning" people of some mythical "danger"? I won't speculate on why you're doing this even though it's neither your duty nor your business to tell 'newcomers' about your outline for righteous and heinous activities on poemranker, or your profiles of the alleged perpetrators thereof. However, I can't help but wonder what sort of motivation you have if you won't even pin down what I'm supposed to have done. You haven't mentioned any actual things I've said; you've simply made unfounded assertions about my motivation, my mission, what I take personally, what I will do in the future, etc, etc. Is this the way to solve whatever problem you have with my behaviour? No. Of course it isn't. So instead of complaining about it like the overcompensating bully-victim I'm starting to picture you as, do something about it and tell ME about the ACTUAL THINGS I'VE SAID that you have a problem with. Until that happens, you have no basis for saying any of the things you've said on the subject. Of course, I'd prefer it if you just shut up about the whole thing, but since we both know that isn't going to happen, at least meet me halfway. OK? Be consistent with your claim that this is a forum for poetry criticism and not character assassination.
regarding some deleted poem...	27-Aug-02/6:47 PM
Yeah, that'll get him! All he wanted to hear was that he was right! Go god'swife! Are you really that simple-minded? Do you really think I am that simple-minded? Are you expecting someone to say 'touche' (which they no doubt will, now)?
regarding some deleted poem...	27-Aug-02/6:58 PM
Why do I think you were talking about me? Oh, no reason in particular. Just that the archetype you describe up there happens to be quite close to what you were making me out to be the other day. How arrogant of me to think I was still the target of your righteous indignance.
regarding some deleted poem...	27-Aug-02/7:01 PM
god'swife: yes, negative personal comments are sometimes made. Why are you telling it on the mountain all of a sudden? I know that if I had just joined this site I would prefer to form my own opinion of people instead of having one fed to me.
Re: Falling in Love by disturbedone182	27-Aug-02/7:04 PM
Pfft. 'disturbedone182'? Read the first few lines of the poem. Do you really have to ask?