Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	21-Oct-05/11:15 AM
Oh I see, you’re justifying it on the basis of race and Americanism. You’re saying that because 50% of marriage commitments fail, that it’s ok to fail. And you’re further justifying it on the basis that “pure endurance” is not worth the cost. But the kicker is that “romance” becomes the goal.
Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	21-Oct-05/10:56 AM
5) We are not so obtuse as to make commitments we don’t intend to keep. I don’t know if you are romantic, but you seem uncommitted. To even consider breakup is non-commitment.
Re: a fat man on the dock by ay deee	21-Oct-05/10:43 AM
Again, the first line (last line in your other poem) seems out of place, though it's a good line. I'd drop the first verse altogether.
Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	21-Oct-05/10:33 AM
1) It’s good that what you used to think has changed. If I ever thought that being a servant self-negator made me better than he, I would no longer be a servant self-negator. 2) Seldom would the perfect man become a jerk in the long term, though a jerk for an hour is expected. 3) That’s the nicest compliment you have ever given me. 5) My commitment would hold even if he becomes undesirable because it is a commitment, and I believe in commitment. It would be the same with or without kids, though kids add strength to a commitment. Property be damned. 6) Your wedding vow statement, “You are united by a connection that is strong because it is flexible” is what I’m talking about. We change; and the kind of love must change. The extreme outcome of this is an act of faith, where I overlook the wrong, raising his desires over mine, every time, every day.
Re: Leg by jessicazee	21-Oct-05/10:10 AM
It's uncertain whether the legs in the first part are yours or his. It's a sexy romp in any case.
Re: Leg by jessicazee	21-Oct-05/10:10 AM
It's uncertain whether the legs in the first part are yours or his. It's a sexy romp in any case.
Re: a comment on Incommunicado blues (fixed, except for Dovina) by zodiac	21-Oct-05/9:55 AM
Now if you'd just get rid of that irritating "late . . .ly" I'd give you a 9.
Re: a comment on Incommunicado blues (fixed, except for Dovina) by zodiac	21-Oct-05/9:54 AM
The last sentence is understandable after your edit. You fear religion because you fear conformity's crutch. You want it, but want also want the rogue; you're wild with a homebody bent. I'm surprised you're still married.
Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	21-Oct-05/9:48 AM
Wow, I’m about to melt. Does this mean that you’ll raises my desires above yours, every time, every day, knowing that anything less is fleeting and doomed? Just kidding.
Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	21-Oct-05/9:39 AM
If, I DOVINA, were to agree to be a servant and self-negator, it would not be to some jerk self-centered master. The whole point of this discourse is to say that if I marry the perfect man, and at some later time he becomes a jerk, my committment will still hold. I will not can him because he is no longer desirable to me. Do you see that?
Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	20-Oct-05/12:47 PM
It applies to all marriages. I believe that in trying to right a wrong, you have written a wrong. Pity.
Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	20-Oct-05/12:41 PM
When you say that success in marriage depends on being a servant and self-negator, you negate all you said previously, and agree with me.
Re: a comment on Farm animals by INTRANSIT	19-Oct-05/8:00 AM
I hardly think INTRANSIT is that much into wholistic philosophy here, but let's see how he answers.
Re: a comment on Farm animals by INTRANSIT	19-Oct-05/7:53 AM
And if the butcher block is an awakened thing, how can its chips awaken as if something twice awakened?
Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	19-Oct-05/7:49 AM
I am not married, but if I decide to be so, I will take this position regardless of how he feels about it.
Re: Incommunicado blues (fixed, except for Dovina) by zodiac	19-Oct-05/7:47 AM
Why the funky "late-" and "ly" on different lines? Maybe to stress your need for new vocabulary. Tongue-dance would be a good metaphor, but since you didn't use it, that gives me the right to steal it. Religion will give you a a scaffold of proper nouns, greetings, and expansive gestures, but then the sentence fumbles, as if the word-dance becomes a twisted twist.
Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	19-Oct-05/7:33 AM
Yes. Of course it’s perfectly legal to marry on whims of romance, giggles of puppy love, or to save a fetus. But it’s one-sided commitment that makes it last.
Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	19-Oct-05/7:32 AM
Hear the Gospel According to Dovina and pray it’s not too late.
Re: a comment on Marriage by Dovina	19-Oct-05/7:32 AM
Let’s consider the running and screaming right up front.
Re: a comment on Figment by Dovina	18-Oct-05/3:51 PM
I suppose you'd have to hold this letter, feeling its brutal impact, to see it as totally there and totally nonexistant at the same time.