Dovina
replying on Nesting Instinct of Women by Dovina
17 May 2005, 11:29 AM
I thought I made it clear that drones are male bees. Worker bees are females (not sexless) but they do not mate and apparently have no desires for the drones. Now does it compute?
Love for the king means you might become irrational enough to say something totally affectionate like âMay the king live forever!â You would not say that and mean it if you only like him. It is the distinction between âlikeâ and âloveâ that Iâm trying to get at here.
If it is true that you, âprovide emotional support when [your] wife needs it and have it provided when [you] need it,â then bravo! And if it is true: âMy relationship/marriage is founded on this idea of perfect mutuality and distribution of work,â then bravo again. But I am hearing so much cerebral definition and so little feeling that I wonder. Anyway if you are âliving the dreamâ then you are right, I should lay off.
Do you really see a distinction between "Long live the king" and "May the king live forever"? What? I mean, I know you say one is what people who like the king shout, and the other is what people who love the king shout, but really.
Maybe you need another traditional thing for shouting at people. Here are some Arabic ones:
"God save you from the fire!"
"May you never taste spicy food!"
"God willing, you will shit oil!"
I think it's a simply wonderful word. Really.
'genes' should be 'jeans' or 'them'.
Maybe I should rephrase: Two more important aspects FOR A RELATIONSHIP'S BEING "SUCCESSFUL" (that is, lasting a long time with neither partner killing himself or being more miserable than, say, he or she would be if he or she were an Aboriginal) are
1) some common understanding of the relationship's nature, formed early on, and
2) sexual compatibility.
There's no real point to having made the last bit into a numbered list, incidentally, except that it'll help me explain why.
1) Almost no successful relationship is based on a mutual exchange of emotional support. And almost no woman really expects to get emotional support out of a relationship. More than half of the relationships I know (my own, of course, excluded--see below) hinge on one partner's flinging emotional support at the other in some sick orgy of self-sacrifice, and the other knowing that's what's going on and being more-or-less cool with it. That's what I mean by a common understanding of the nature of the relationship: there's a kind of stability; both partners know one is the griping martyr and the other is useless and sitting around in his/her bathrobe at noon and not going out and getting a fucking job. To some extent, they both want it that way (cf. Crystal Lane Swift.) If it's not self-sacrifice it's something else and similar; for instance, my relationship/marriage is founded on this idea of perfect mutuality and distribution of work, decision-making, emotional support, and so on that my wife and I established in our first months together. Of course, I think something like our system is a lot better for a relationship than the martyr/lout setup, but I don't think it's a factor for a relationship being "successful". (At least, not as far as I've defined the word above. You've got a better definition? Fine, write it out. But it can't involve the phrase "emotional support"; that's a cause, not a result.)
2) Sexual compatibility doesn't mean what you think it means. It can mean something as Californian as one or both partners (nominally) agreeing to let the other fuck around with other people, and so on. Without some kind of common ground there, though, I don't care how great the emotional support is, it's not going to last.
And of course the bit about me 'killing the most important thing and replacing it with my desires' is bunk. I've already said like ten times on this page alone that I PROVIDE EMOTIONAL SUPPORT WHEN MY WIFE NEEDS IT AND HAVE IT PROVIDED WHEN I NEED IT. That is, I'm living the dream and you're just dreaming it; so lay off.
I see more than a poem about bees. But I don't know a lot of women whose lives are anything like all-female sexless bee drones. If you're trying to talk about women in general, it just doesn't compute. Sorry.
I fisted your Gran and broke her spine
I burnt your Princess Diana shrine
I ripped up your favourite golden gown
Your ever loving Courtney Pine, Top Jazz Saxophonist
Is this poeme about bumsex? Are you some sort of bummersexualist?
Very, very, very good. Bordering on "excellent". -1-
Your a dicksplat
Your clearly a gaylord
I don't understand poetry very much could you explian. I I don't understand this: Our driver's Ed was private
i'm not sure about the caulking bit either as this brings to mind prehistoric ships to me.
can you help?
I'm trying to learn
The first paragraph suggests to me that the female is a school girl at an all girls school.
the second that she fears, fears, fears to leave this state, but also wants to.
The third that she can go back to the school
What have i done wrong?
Are all women emotional train wrecks?
Does dovina have no idea how to control her emotions?
Do all women worship emotions as a god?
What a hypochnondriac needs is a really good kicking! and they also need a really good whacking! and a good fucking over!
You will turn round and say OH MY GOD rhetorical & also ironicalisationalism
I will ask are you a homosexualist?