| Re: a comment on Les Imagistes by Nicholas Jones |
Dovina 208.127.90.113 |
18-Feb-07/4:02 PM |
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What good is an arm to me? Amputated, packaged and mailed, Iâd have a disposal problem, and the garbageman might ask questions. Nevertheless, I can produce a duck as you describe and will do so upon receipt of the arm. BTW, is it a hairy arm?
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| Re: Les Imagistes by Nicholas Jones |
ALChemy 71.68.46.177 |
18-Feb-07/8:08 AM |
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I would bet my right arm that no duck that has ever existed aside from maybe Donald, Daffy or Howard the duck has ever contemplated in any way the profundity of walking on water.
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| Re: Leg by jessicazee |
half.italian 76.172.249.205 |
17-Feb-07/3:55 PM |
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| Re: Lonely Hearts by Stephen Robins |
Dental Panic 84.85.206.227 |
17-Feb-07/1:44 PM |
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Sounds like flarf from any officecomputer. You can do better: so do better.
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| Re: Cat you cat by Tman |
Tman 161.184.192.37 |
17-Feb-07/10:46 AM |
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great poem, I love cats.....
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| Re: The Medium of Dunce by Ranger |
drnick 24.176.22.254 |
17-Feb-07/9:23 AM |
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What is this shit? Just kidding. I like the repeated lines.
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| Re: a comment on Les Imagistes by Nicholas Jones |
Nicholas Jones 86.141.28.29 |
16-Feb-07/4:34 PM |
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It seems to me you have fixed ideas about what poetry should do. I don't want it to flow. It's about watching a frozen lake, that's the complete opposite of flow.
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| Re: a comment on Advent by Nicholas Jones |
Nicholas Jones 86.141.28.29 |
16-Feb-07/4:31 PM |
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What's all this about flow? I'm not an MC trying to win one of those rap battles (I'm way too white and middle class, for a start?). Who says poetry has to flow? Well maybe Keats did, but maybe he was wrong. Maybe it should stutter from line to line like our minds, my mind flows but it flows all sorts of crap over me, to create order is to lie, to tell stories is to tell lies, if I'm going to attempt to articulate the process of living inside my own head then there has to be some chaos. This is what Eliot and Pound did for us, they showed that artistic fragmentation is necessary to meaningful discuss a fragmented culture in a fragmented world. So fine, say it's a bad poem, that's ok, but don't say it's bad because there's no flow.
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| Re: a comment on The Horror The Horror by Nicholas Jones |
Nicholas Jones 86.141.28.29 |
16-Feb-07/4:23 PM |
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It is supposed to be all over the place, because that is the postmodern condition which is what the thing is all about. If you think that's just pretentiousness then I don't care; this is the life we all lead whether we want to or not.
The joining a party to fight for socialism thing is specifically about the Labour in Britain (which I still belong to). It's gone in fifty years from creating the welfare state to being best friends with George Bush. But that isn't the point. It's about wanting meaning, objective truth, to assert that George Orwell is better than Celebrity Big Brother; but how can I do that because I share in the shallowness of our culture?
Ok, so the Conrad / TS Eliot thing isn't exactly subtle, but fuck it, all poetry is really about poetry anyway.
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| Re: a comment on Around 4am at this time of the year by Nicholas Jones |
Nicholas Jones 86.141.28.29 |
16-Feb-07/4:16 PM |
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Blimey, that's a lot of critiquing you've been doing in one day.
It's not about convoluted language. It's about wanting to be able to not think. But to require a mental activity to stop yourself thinking. Because otherwise the horror comes.
Looking at the stuff I've written there are many poems about not being to sleep; it's a subject that means a lot to me. It's why I'm writing this past midnight having got home from a gig; because I'm scared when I do go to bed I might be awake for hours yet. So this poem is about waking up, it's summer, it gets light early, intently watching the changing colours of the sky as the sun rises distracts me from that four am sense of emptiness.
I'm not saying it's a perfect poem, far from it, but the horror and the terror isn't directly in it because it's a poem about avoiding that rather than confronting it.
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| Re: a comment on The Medium of Dunce by Ranger |
Ranger 81.103.124.179 |
16-Feb-07/3:14 PM |
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"both over and under told..." -- how so?
I don't know that it's particularly clever, I just wanted to muck around with a rondel for fun.
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| Re: a comment on The Medium of Dunce by Ranger |
Ranger 81.103.124.179 |
16-Feb-07/3:14 PM |
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| Re: Yet more woe by Stephen Robins |
Ranger 81.103.124.179 |
16-Feb-07/3:12 PM |
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Have you seen Otis Lee Crenshaw (Rich Hall) do his prison rape song?
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| Re: The Ballad of Andy Thomas (A True Story) by Rakesh Rajani |
Ranger 81.103.124.179 |
16-Feb-07/3:09 PM |
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Possibly the best part of this poeme is the rhyming of 'anus' with 'gayness', although it seems to be more suited to a limerick:
I've heard of a brown homo anus
That travels the land spreading gayness
O'er mountains and glades
It runs, spreading AIDS
Look out! It's come to bestain us!
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| Re: Lonely Hearts by Stephen Robins |
richa 81.179.135.216 |
16-Feb-07/2:39 PM |
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| Re: Complaints by jessicazee |
richa 81.179.135.216 |
16-Feb-07/2:35 PM |
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I don't know what cocoa salt stains are. I'd stick with just cocoa stains. I like how you go back to his knee again to communicate its intermittent nature. I presume you have been chided for playing the fool with the shadow hands. 'it was the bear wasn't it?' is interesting. I read it as an innocent attempt to explain why your playful.ness had elicited complaint. It is difficult to get a grip of at first but it does make sense after a few reads.
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| Re: Plurals by -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. |
richa 81.179.135.216 |
16-Feb-07/2:17 PM |
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Octopodes is my favourite.
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| Re: Plurals by -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. |
nentwined 76.167.62.172 |
16-Feb-07/11:31 AM |
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I'll take a Guiness, you pig!
Cute. But doesn't do it for me.
Minus a point for not having "fish" as per rockmage.
Extra point for the word "Gortices".
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| Re: a comment on Captured by Dovina |
nentwined 76.167.62.172 |
16-Feb-07/10:58 AM |
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The wielding everything, the timing of it seemed to imply to me it was all done at once. Maybe I needed to see the action happening to separate it out.
After that, yeah, I was all over the place with the poem--couldn't focus. Maybe work the earlier bits in, throughout, and be a little less circumspect?
I really don't know.
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| Re: a comment on a self-conscious lack of denial by nentwined |
nentwined 76.167.62.172 |
16-Feb-07/10:56 AM |
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A couple (bottles?) and I'd probably be blacked out.
This was just about 6 oz of Pyrat rum.
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