zodiac
replying on Beneath the Willow Tree by cyan9
17 Nov 2005, 11:27 AM
Please see Phenomenon, Fire in the Sky, Oprah, or any ABC or BBC daytime movie about comatose or vaguely transcendental people. On second thought, you'd probably do better not to see Phenomenon.
It's fair enough to say this poem evokes images and emotions for other people. I'll rephrase: This poem doesn't evoke images or emotions for me. I'm just one guy.
I think this site is better than allpoetry.com, but not for getting useful comments on your poetry.
It started with the willow tree poem and your right I should have minded my own business. It wasn't my fight. But I've been here a little while and I've seen what the approach you were taking to the comments has done to others who started here the same way. Sooner or later someone was going to put you through that big arguement we had and believe me I'm one of the nicer ones. Zodiacs a nice guy too but he's been here a long, long time and I figured he was tired of going through it with people.
I do still apologize for butting in. Yes there are some very cruel people here but you'll find they tend to be easy to spot. For an example: http://www.poemranker.com/poem-details.j sp?id=130308
Take it with a grain of salt and a sense of humor. You won't have to tell them they're asses, everyone already knows they are.
Use the eye for an eye approach and make sure it's a zinger with no mistakes. I can see you're already getting much better at that. If you give away your anger (name calling is like a big flashing you're getting to me sign) then they'll pounce on you like wolves. I try to the best of my ability to go by these rules but yes everyone cracks every once in a while so be tough, careful and try to take the highest road. There are definately more people here who are quite kind (but we all have our mean days) than bullies.
Dovina's another nice one. I'm sure you'll grow to love her soon, as we all have.
Don't worry I hardly ever hold a grudge.
Oh, I see it's an old post. I think I might see the hidden metaphor too.
I seem to hear this to the music of "Hey, hey Paula".
I see the initial story but can't help but wonder if you haven't deeply hidden one your sly metaphors into the body of this poem.
The last line is about the closest thing to a jingle I've ever seen you post. Which gives me the feeling that the dash out the door has happened more than once.
That's all I got for you so far.
You cant blame me for being paranoid.
Sweet. You drew me in with the porno title. Like I said it's sweet but would be infinately more heartwrenching and complex if she had cheated on you with Stuart Barr and then committed suicide.
If it's a true story than I apologize profusely.
Not at all, there are many people who I respect but still question, my respect for your knowledge was lost earlier in the discourse and has been regained as we have moved on. When I find people on sites like this who I perceive as trying to be rude for the sake of it, I liken them to myself at 13, when I used to go to chat rooms and be rude for the sake of it (hence the "teenager" lines); I instantly lose respect, since this site is where people post poems where they pour out their hearts, and I believe it is not the place for unneccessary rudeness, rather for constructive criticism put in a considerate and well meaning way and balanced way. I am cynical to you because of the above, and being a poet, and likely an emotional person, you should know better.
Damn! I would have loved to hear his response to that.
No it's not about you. Egoboy.
No, not until after I submitted the response. I geuss you were suggesting that if you said you were a famous poet, that might carry more weight; even famous poets can be wrong, and I wouldn't be able to know whether you were one. If you believe zodiac, and if I trusted your opinion, then it could take it one step closer to validity. I do have ESP, but I'm afraid its on my car not in my head (oh dear, I get worse the older I get).
No, it's not about him! lol on the ovi.
Not me, mofo.
Sorry to be an Ass, but quantum registers now exist, and can contain vastly more information per q-bit using the spin upon different atoms.
I thought a certain person (who I will not name) was the inspiration for the computer metaphor. He has confessed his emotionlessness to some degree.
If you start to read it in this way you can see how it made me go "Whoa! Wow!"
Another word for egg is "ovi". Now take "ovi" out of "DoviNA".
You have succeeded in your ambition and your work. I would say however that the female/male divide is better put as an emotional/intellectual divide. Although this is an extreme generalisation: Men I believe are as emotional as women, but wear it beneath the surface. Women I believe are as intellectual as men, but wear it beneath the surface. On the face of it, it appears that men are unemotional and women emotional, but I think mans concealed emotion appears through his intellect in the form of ideals/morals (hopefully), I believe womans concealed intellect appears through her emotions in the form of concern (hopefully).
The four attitudes represent the four proteins that make can be selected from in making DNA. A computer can select only from 1 and 0 for any one bit. DNA can select from four proteins for a “bit” of its code.
It’s about love, I’m glad you noticed it. When we seduce him with charm (force charm on him), it’s really yielding to an innate fault that only finds compliment in his terse, computer-like brain.
You’re not getting any eggs out of me. This whole thing about sex is where she keeps hers and he gives his, remember.