Re: a comment on Nightfall by Niphredil	INTRANSIT 64.12.116.138	2-Jan-06/7:25 AM
Though I think (well-known) are the key words here. I'm sure one exists though I may not be able to find it as I'm not near as well read as others. What used to not make sense to me in my Kerouac , now does. But. Nothing's wrong Something's right W.C, fields bathrobe Kerouac that makes no sense to me. Funny though.
Re: a comment on Nightfall by Niphredil	zodiac 70.109.13.79	2-Jan-06/7:22 AM
Oh, him. The point was supposed to be that most good poems are logical, but, Touche.
Re: a comment on Nightfall by Niphredil	INTRANSIT 64.12.116.138	2-Jan-06/7:18 AM
Kerouac comes to mind.
Re: a comment on My Interesting Life by Dovina	zodiac 70.109.13.79	2-Jan-06/7:15 AM
Oh. Then up the adverbs. Show us all.
Re: a comment on Nightfall by Niphredil	zodiac 70.109.13.79	2-Jan-06/7:14 AM
INTRANSIT: Find me a well-known illogical poem.
Re: a comment on For Love of Baseball by Dovina	zodiac 70.109.13.79	2-Jan-06/7:12 AM
Happy Happy New Year.
Re: a comment on Nightfall by Niphredil	INTRANSIT 64.12.116.138	2-Jan-06/7:12 AM
We have many trees in my neighborhood that have dark bark on them and they are still very dark in full daylight. I like the way the tree starts slightly ominous and becomes "friendly" by the end. Villanelles are a mother to do. I've only tried twice. Thus far.
Re: a comment on Romans 8:28 by amanda_dcosta	zodiac 70.109.13.79	2-Jan-06/7:12 AM
How can I not believe in psychology? Do you mean that I don't believe in some of the theories formulated by psychologists? You're right, I don't. But that's not the point. The point is that I've been saying for a week now that the only real way to believe in God is by feeling Him in your bow'ls. There is no possible proof of God because God means "He Who can do everything", and that's unproveable. To paraphrase -=Dark_Angel=-'s question from another context, If you hear a giant voice in the sky saying "I am God", is that proof of God? Or possibly an megalomaniac in an airplane with a loudspeaker? What if someone rises from the dead? Is that proof of a God who can do Everything? No. And how do you test "everything", anyway? What does it say about God you can't look for him in truth? Happy New Year.
Re: a comment on Romans 8:28 by amanda_dcosta	zodiac 70.109.13.79	2-Jan-06/7:08 AM
I'm a little hurt by "degrees and apparent know-it-allness". All I mean by that is that I've worked hard to know as much as I can about things that interest me, and I'm naive enough to think that matters. If you were a pool shark, I wouldn't insult your experience by saying it's perfectly okay to play with live baby pigeons instead of billiard balls.
Re: a comment on Romans 8:28 by amanda_dcosta	zodiac 70.109.13.79	2-Jan-06/6:50 AM
Stupid. Fuzzy logic is illogic. There's no distinction. And I've admitted my areguementes might be flawed, which is more than you've had the common courtesy to do, Miss.
Re: a comment on Romans 8:28 by amanda_dcosta	zodiac 70.109.13.79	2-Jan-06/6:40 AM
One of your many logical mistakes in this argument is thinking the word "logical" means anything different from "orderly", "consistent" or "predictable". You've said dozens of times on this site that you think the universe's consistent adherence to physical (or evolutionary) rules is possible evidence of God. You believe the statement 1 + 1 = 2 exists in some eternal, Platonic order beyond our mere mortal bow'ls. If that so-called order isn't God, what is it?
Re: a comment on Nightfall by Niphredil	Niphredil 192.117.121.155	2-Jan-06/12:43 AM
...With *HER* explanation. :-) I am woman, hear me roar. In any case, I really think you're nitpicking. This was the kind of cedar tree I envisioned in the poem, which is quite large enough for darkness, snow-protection and whatever. http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13011/13011-h/images/12.jpg I'd like to remind you that it's also twilight on a foggy day, which is really quite dark; the poem deals with the transition from black shadows against gray to entire darkness. I think, however, that you misunderstand the general idea of the poem. It is meant to be told from the point of view of someone who has been dead for some time, and is now lying - perhaps in a grave? - beneath a cedar tree. Perhaps re-reading will clarify.
Re: a comment on Nightfall by Niphredil	Dovina 209.247.222.95	1-Jan-06/7:19 PM
Oh well.
Re: a comment on Nightfall by Niphredil	INTRANSIT 64.12.116.138	1-Jan-06/7:05 PM
Um, no. While I'm sure we could all use a little more uhurU, I'm talking about a Star Trek thing. Obviously you don't understand. I think you're being hyper-logical about the poem. Oh well.
Re: a comment on Romans 8:28 by amanda_dcosta	ALChemy 24.74.101.159	1-Jan-06/6:39 PM
DOH!
Re: a comment on A Shortcut to Summer by Enkidu	Dovina 209.247.222.86	1-Jan-06/4:24 PM
Yes, of course. Using second person consistently is a good method. So why the last verse? Why not: "Green the spring . . ."
Re: a comment on For Love of Baseball by Dovina	Dovina 209.247.222.86	1-Jan-06/4:10 PM
Very funny.
Re: a comment on Nightfall by Niphredil	Dovina 209.247.222.86	1-Jan-06/4:02 PM
I presume you mean uhuru, freedom, an African word. Yes I could use more of that. With his explanation it makes more sense, but without it, I am still lying under a swaying cedar tree with snow on its branches, in the dark, in the daytime, unaffected by falling snow.
Re: when i met sky alone by Prince of Void	some deleted user 204.97.18.119	1-Jan-06/3:21 PM
I agree. Line 2 is really good--the rest is confusing.
Re: ghost host by elderking	some deleted user 204.97.18.119	1-Jan-06/3:12 PM
This is good. I like its rhythm--and the power of the last stanza.