Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	Dovina 69.175.32.104	13-Mar-06/3:04 PM
Yes, I admit a kind of love for old Plato. And don't quite see how this is the new thing "film-esque."
Re: Half a dozen by thepinkbunnyofdoom	Ranger 62.252.32.15	13-Mar-06/3:03 PM
Pretty, I'd agree with changing 'outta' though.
Re: I want to slit my wrist and call it poetry by thepinkbunnyofdoom	Ranger 62.252.32.15	13-Mar-06/3:02 PM
You manage what most can't, namely angst without pimples! This is a very smooth piece of prose - the conclusion was the most effective part; not entirely original but then again, when you can write this well novelty doesn't always matter. A top-notch read.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	Dovina 69.175.32.104	13-Mar-06/3:00 PM
Refering back to your original comment in this thread: I was impressed with the almost erotic delight Hobbs and Russell took in learning Euclid’s geometry. “As dazzling as first love!” So I took it one step further in giving life and emotion to numbers. Nothing special about 183; any odd number would do. Then it struck me that any high significance one attaches to one’s self eventually draws attention to the possibility of it not being true.
Re: Climbing the Wall by ecargo	INTRANSIT 64.12.116.6	13-Mar-06/2:59 PM
Fantastic beat. I thought you started out talking about trying to walk across a romp-a-room full of kids and their toys. HA! I just got back from Madison, where I read Bookends and Trapped in a horseshoe aloud to a crowd of....7? It seemed to go well.
Re: a comment on The Devil's Carnival by Ranger	Ranger 62.252.32.15	13-Mar-06/2:55 PM
Not bad at all - you pretty much condensed both meanings into one =D
Re: a comment on Settling in by INTRANSIT	INTRANSIT 64.12.116.10	13-Mar-06/2:55 PM
No , this is a "real" house. the onomatos were the inspiration. I love playing with sound.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	Ranger 62.252.32.15	13-Mar-06/2:53 PM
Don't bother with Nietzsche. Plato's much more interesting. I still like the concept of this poem, although it does feel very film-esque.
Re: The Devil's Carnival by Ranger	INTRANSIT 64.12.116.6	13-Mar-06/2:51 PM
If there's anything wrong here, I can't find it. I saw a girl being tortured by others on an amusement ride or she was forced to ride and she didn't want to. Now I'm going to read the remarks and see how I did.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	ecargo 167.219.88.140	13-Mar-06/2:50 PM
Heh--a much more productive use of time. Though this did make an uneventful Monday fly by. So much for not getting sucked into the 'ranker comments feature again. Sigh.
Re: Settling in by INTRANSIT	Ranger 62.252.32.15	13-Mar-06/2:50 PM
Another enjoyable ditty, particularly the semi-repetition 'sliding/siding' at the beginning and end. Is 'dryer' part of a truck (as I assume washers are)? Nice onomatopoeic tricks. I trust you don't have to live in your motor all winter?
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	INTRANSIT 64.12.116.10	13-Mar-06/2:48 PM
In the amount of time it has taken me to read this funny , though useless, thread, an amish community has raised a barn. And. The youngsters built a 1/8 scale exact replica of the statue of liberty, then knocked it over, set it ablaze and had a "cookout".
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	Dovina 69.175.32.104	13-Mar-06/2:45 PM
re: “I think ‘eternally’ is just a junk word she thought would sound good.” For Number 183, who believes she was created in heaven, unique and useful to her creator, “eternity” is not a junk word. She will live forever, usefully serving her master and receiving pleasure from those who recognize her beauty and adore her. But at times, she feels that perhaps none of it is true, and just maybe she’s no more than a concoction, a useful idea. In those moments, she fears that “eternity” is a lie and a junk word. I suppose that given a couple years, maybe I’ll work my way up to Nietzsche and the modern philosophers who debunk the intrinsic value of numbers. For now I rather enjoy winning some of these disputes, as evidenced by no answer being given to my argument, but cries of “Blatherer!”, “Moron!”, like shrill barks of a small dog. But without this freedom in anonymity, it wouldn't be fun anymore would it?
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	ecargo 167.219.88.140	13-Mar-06/2:39 PM
Well, this starts to get a little beyond my comfort level in terms of what math actually "does" vis-a-vis reality. But "reality"--our understanding of what that means--shifts at any given point in time, doesn't it? And some of those shifts resulted from mathematics. So--is that bringing something 'new' (in terms of our understanding of reality) into being, as art does? Or is it just discovering what already exists? I honestly don't know. It's certainly an debate that's been going on (among much keener minds than mine) for a long time. Platonism or Formalism or something else entirely? Godel talked quite a bit about math being interpretive of abstract reality rather than empirical reality. Maybe that's not such a bad place to start thinking about this stuff. My head hurts.
Re: a comment on Crowded by INTRANSIT	INTRANSIT 64.12.116.10	13-Mar-06/2:31 PM
you know Matt, the first thought did start every line with "Nineteen gauges". I knew I could do better. And I can do better than this too, eventually. thanks for the fence-vote.
Re: a comment on Call me Floyed by FreeFormFixation	INTRANSIT 64.12.116.10	13-Mar-06/2:28 PM
IT AINT ABOUT YOU!!!!!
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	ALChemy 24.74.100.11	13-Mar-06/2:20 PM
Well at least art is the attempt at imitating god. I guess you could say art is when logic is at a loss for words and something else like emotion is left to interpret things.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	ALChemy 24.74.100.11	13-Mar-06/2:14 PM
Sure, you can make statements like God is that guy mentioned in the bible but that doesn't really say anything definitive about god it only says things that people think about god. The real god if there is one may not be that guy mentioned in the bible. Basically your guess is as good as mine. So that's why using math is as silly as throwing poop. Niether one of them will define god unless you decide that's what you want god to be. So one person might say god is E=mc2 and another might say god is poop art. Whose to say which definition's closer.
Re: Nude Falling Down Staircase by zodiac	Dark Angle 68.96.87.234	13-Mar-06/2:04 PM
i am completely baffled with this one. maybe my two year break from poetry really disconnected me from the poetic beat or something
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	ecargo 167.219.88.140	13-Mar-06/2:04 PM
Fair enough. I guess that's why I see it as "interpret"--to render it in such a way as to be capable of a limited understanding. Of course, to me, it's academic anyway (given that I don't actually buy the concept of "divine").