Re: Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	31-Oct-04/7:49 PM
wrath:Punishment or vengeance as a manifestation of anger. Divine retribution for sin The line can be interpreted as. Request the vengeance of god on those who see fit... It's meant as an answer to "what should I do about these people. Obviously I'm barking up the wrong tree.
Re: a comment on Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	31-Oct-04/7:33 PM
'I call upon the name of God to witness my oath' so how can a name witness an outh? See if you take it literally it's stupid. And to take a poem literally and not for It's implied meaning is even more retarded. You guy's would look at a Picasso and say "That don't look anything like a woman."
Re: Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	31-Oct-04/6:50 PM
CHERUBIM AND SERAPHIM By Mary M. Bodie "We emphasize the fact which is especially interesting and instructive to us, that it is not Christ alone but His people also - His Body - who will have part in the thrilling scenes of the Day of the Lord. We notice the significant fact, that the living creatures will call the wrath of God into evidence - Rev. 6."
Re: Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	31-Oct-04/6:46 PM
Formula of Pious Consensus Among the Pastors of the Saxon Churches Entered into the Public Record at the Synod of Mediasch 22 June 1572_. by Lucas Ungleich [aka Lukas Unglerus], 1526-1600 -:But as many as scorn the Son by their unbelief are condemned, and the wrath of God remains upon them. but the blame falls back on ourselves, who stubbornly resist the divine will, and by our sins call the wrath of God and punishments upon ...
Re: Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	31-Oct-04/6:28 PM
This pope gave up his robes Celestine V didn't want to be pope and tried to retire to monastery By Tony Staley Compass Editor St. Celestine V When: 1210-1296 Where: Italy What: Founder of an order of monks and pope Canonized: 1313 Feast: May 19 An old saying warns: Be careful what you ask for, you might get it. St. Celestine V may have wished he had heeded that warning. As the abbot of an order of monks, he told the College of Cardinals to stop their fighting, which had gone on for two years, and elect a new pope. If they didn't, he warned, he would call the wrath of God down upon them. So on July 5, 1294, the cardinals elected the 84-year-old abbot as the new pope.
Re: a comment on Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	31-Oct-04/12:33 AM
definition for Call on or Call upon: To order or request to undertake a particular activity: called on our friends to help.
Re: a comment on Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	31-Oct-04/12:19 AM
I admit I don't know the complete solution. Only god does. Truth though is definitely a step in the right direction. It is disappointing that there is no pill you can take to make it go away but sometimes you have to put it in god's hands and just admit the truth. People can be fucked up. The acceptance of that fact allows you to step above it if you are strong willed enough to do so. It ain't easy. Niether is the truth. Also by letting others know about what happened to you and by who. Can protect you and others from further harm.
Re: a comment on Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	31-Oct-04/12:05 AM
Written in the other way is blasphemous.
Re: a comment on Fascists by Imago	30-Oct-04/11:55 PM
based on "We are legion for we are many"
Re: Fascists by Imago	30-Oct-04/11:51 PM
Yes legion and many mean the same thing. It's a quote.
Re: a comment on Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	30-Oct-04/11:31 PM
Here's a poem for example. "Whilst the bells ring" By Richa. The archaic line is a reflection of the bible. Meaning you should think of the line in biblical terms. I will admit the "no blooms" line is redundant at some level but so is "Dead men tell no tales." That doesn't mean it doesn't have a secondary more poetically implied meaning.(Kill the snitch). I do believe you're all quite smart but to state these arguments with little if nothing to back them up seems somewhat arrogant.
Re: a comment on Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	30-Oct-04/11:08 PM
If instead I wrote. "Shame on you." in the first line or "may god have shame on you." would that be different. Ok we've agreed that thee means you. so lets define "You" and I quote :"Used to refer to an indefinitely specified person; one: You can't win them all." But I understand your confusion with this so I will change "thee" to "Ye" because I value your opinion so much. Even if your an insulting asshole.
Re: a comment on Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	30-Oct-04/10:39 PM
On and upon are the exact same thing. Look it up. Thee: refer to top definition can be plural.("god shed his grace on thee")To call upon something and to call something are 2 diferent things. I am not god I can't call his wrath but I can request it. I wish you guys would bring proof to back up your argument. By the way I like your poems.
Re: a comment on Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	30-Oct-04/11:15 AM
Dictionary definition for thou or thee: \Thou\, pron. [Sing.: nom. Thou; poss. Thyor Thine; obj. Thee. Pl.: nom. You; poss. Youror Yours; obj. You.] [OE. thou, [thorn]u, AS. [eth][=u], [eth]u; akin to OS. & OFries. thu, G., Dan. & Sw. du, Icel. [thorn][=u], Goth. [thorn]u, Russ. tui, Ir. & Gael. tu, W. ti, L. tu, Gr. sy`, Dor. ty`, Skr. tvam. [root]185. Cf. Thee, Thine, Te Deum.] The second personal pronoun, in the singular number, denoting the person addressed; thyself; the pronoun which is used in addressing persons in the solemn or poetical style. "Call upon the wrath of God on thee" is a decluration or a curse ie. "A pox upon thee" .It's an answer like you should call on god's wrath to be your vengence. In short either you get it and go with it or you don't. You guys are tough. I like that. Art thou he that should come? --Matt. xi. 3.
Re: whilst the bells ring by richa	30-Oct-04/1:31 AM
It's all fine except the "ding a dong" part. Last time my dong was dinged it hurt like hell.
Re: whilst the bells ring by richa	30-Oct-04/1:19 AM
Whilst ropes huh? Sounds a little archaic for common language
Re: The Old Man by spriggan	29-Oct-04/11:06 PM
Just the last part is concrete. But still a good story. Chris Reeves would be proud.
Re: a comment on Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	29-Oct-04/10:57 PM
More forceful like killing them or castration maybe. It doesn't stop the cycle though. God said in the bible "My sword is truth". Truth is a powerful thing. Look what it did to Nixon.
Re: a comment on Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	29-Oct-04/10:48 PM
Dictionary.com: definition 6. for soured: Of or relating to excessively acid soil that is damaging to crops. for blooms: The flower of a plant. (no flower ie. no bloom) for deflowered: 2 To destroy the innocence, integrity, or beauty of; ravage (not just women) for fruit:definition 3,4,and 5 A plant crop or product: the fruits of the earth. Result; outcome: the fruit of their labor. Offspring; progeny "Call upon the wrath of god on thee" Is like a curse (A pox upon thee) As far as half archaic speech half common speech. Go to church or drama schools. Poetry isn't about speaking proper english It's about redefining the language. If you like free verse then you must understand that. Child abuse is something that must be overcome. no revenge can compensate for the damage it does. Only through acknowledgement can you begin to reverse the damage. The truth will set us free. Thank you for your input it was quite challenging.
Re: Call upon the wrath of god on ye by Imago	29-Oct-04/2:06 PM
Like this? call upon the wrath of god for the sword he yields is truth and through his word procure A spot of holy ground and the seed you sow may grow and bloom into something that is pure