Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	amanda_dcosta 203.145.159.37	14-Mar-06/10:49 AM
What I'm trying to point out is that your belief that 'the human race is on the whole intellegent and capable of solving its problems' is absurd and abstract. Very theoritical and hypothetical...but not practical. Hence my statement. It's not about the bible, but about the fact that man cannot depend on his intellect alone. He needs his divine sustenance and you know it! As for Dovina being 183, what's the odds that she isn't an angel in your company?
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	Dovina 69.175.32.104	14-Mar-06/10:48 AM
Pi has an infinite number of digits to the right of its decimal point, as you say. The number you define as Dovina is infinite in magnitude. Do I think infinity is a real number (in the way that 183 is)? I don't know, it boggles my senses.
Re: a comment on Boundaries by Dhanesh M Kumar	ALChemy 24.74.100.11	14-Mar-06/10:48 AM
ACE!
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	zodiac 206.174.124.170	14-Mar-06/10:47 AM
"infinity can exist within 183". Yes, and even easier than your example. Like this: 183.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000 => infinity dovina = 1/183 of the square root of infinity dovina = (square root of infinity)/183 dovina x 183 = (square root of infinity) (dovina x 183)^2 = infinity So, 183 does not become infinity squared. (dovina x 183)^4 becomes infinity squared. But that's not the point. The point is 183 becomes the square root of infinity divided by 1 dovina.
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	ALChemy 24.74.100.11	14-Mar-06/10:44 AM
I think I'll appreciate it more seeing that Einstein's quote pretty much sums it up for me.
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	ALChemy 24.74.100.11	14-Mar-06/10:39 AM
Let's say you work out that the circumference of a circle is 183. Obviously you used pi(a number with an infinite sequence following the decimal point). This means infinity can exist within 183. A better example: Say mathematicians come up with a distance that is equal to 1/183 the square root of infinity(let's call that distance a Dovina) then a Dovina x 183 = infinity squared. 183 then becomes infinity squared. You still seem to think infinity is a real number.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	zodiac 206.174.124.170	14-Mar-06/10:36 AM
For one, that's not what I said. For two, I don't really believe everything in the Bible, so posting a passage to support your argument doesn't really help me.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	amanda_dcosta 203.145.159.37	14-Mar-06/10:31 AM
Seriously, anybody who thinks that all things/problems can be solved by humans is a big fool. 'Put no trust in princes, in mortal man in whom there is no help. Take their breath, they return to clay, and their plans that day come to NOTHING.'
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	zodiac 206.174.124.170	14-Mar-06/10:28 AM
I've agreed with you dozens of times. I'm not, however, agreeing with you now. There is not more than one infinity.
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	Dovina 69.175.32.104	14-Mar-06/10:26 AM
I believe this is the first time you have ever agreed with me. You should be ashamed!
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	zodiac 206.174.124.170	14-Mar-06/10:26 AM
I'd love Dovina to be born in heaven and nested eternally there. Seriously. But 183 isn't proof, demonstration, model or symbol of that, and even Dovina doesn't think so. I'm not nervous about religion, heaven, creatures, or 183. I am nervous when my belief that the human race is on the whole intelligent and capable of working out its problems is so shaken by willful ignorance such as Dovina's. So sue me.
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	zodiac 206.174.124.170	14-Mar-06/10:23 AM
Yes it can. Imagine a graph on which y = the square root of x. Or if you can't, here's wikipedia's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Square_root.png Naturally, x > y for all x > 1. Now follow the graph right until you reach infinity. x will still be greater than y, but x will be infinity and y will be infinity.
Re: Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	amanda_dcosta 203.145.159.37	14-Mar-06/10:18 AM
I take it that zodiac gets very jittery when he hears anything about religion,or heaven or angels or 183 divine creatures....... or maybe he just can't stand the thought of Dovina born in heaven and nestled eternally there.
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	Dovina 69.175.32.104	14-Mar-06/10:18 AM
We seem to be stuck with having smaller and bigger infinities. One infinity can be a subset of another. Yet they are nonetheless the same size, or so it seems.
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	zodiac 206.174.124.170	14-Mar-06/10:06 AM
YOUR GIFT: - If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. - A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, our perceptions of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which only in their most primitive forms are accessible to our minds—it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute true religiosity; in this sense, and this [sense] alone, I am a deeply religious man. - I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. Einstein Today's his birthday
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	zodiac 206.174.124.170	14-Mar-06/10:05 AM
Both. In equal proportions.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	amanda_dcosta 203.145.159.37	14-Mar-06/9:58 AM
Tell me zodiac, is a -5- for her lacking in poetic form or her ability to fail miserably in eternity? ' Besides there's nothing eternal about 183', then maybe there's something eternal about 138?
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	zodiac 206.174.124.170	14-Mar-06/9:54 AM
No there aren't. And if there were, yikes, where would we store them?!
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	Dovina 69.175.32.104	14-Mar-06/9:39 AM
You wish to awaken moi? I feel so useful and unique. However, the square root of infinity is far away from 183, so far I have no idea how far.
Re: a comment on We Do Not Write About by faithmairee	Dovina 69.175.32.104	14-Mar-06/9:31 AM
There are more infinities than one.