Re: a comment on Crappy by drnick	Dovina 70.38.78.229	17-Oct-06/12:18 PM
Thanks Shuushin. I can’t get back to you on the deleted one, but if my world were treating me well, would I be hanging out here? I hope yours is well, but if not, pull up a chair.
Re: a comment on Crappy by drnick	Dovina 70.38.78.229	17-Oct-06/12:12 PM
“Jesus was a pussy. I love pussy. => I love Jesus.” Jesus is God. I love God. => I love Jesus Each of these conclusions is as good as its premise and its underlying “love.” One is facetious, the other possibly sincere. One mocks theism the other embraces it. I am “Dovinator,” you say, one who makes people like Dovina – as you wish. Allow me to Dovinate you with a question: Why did the rain slide down the window? In case you are planning to mock the question with a simple cause-and-effect one-liner, consider the cause’s cause.
Re: a comment on Timing by Dovina	Dovina 70.38.78.229	17-Oct-06/11:25 AM
You seem unconvinced of the major point I have been trying to make, as evidenced by your diversions to side issues. I agree with you on the trend back to motherhood in England and America, and I agree on the transitory nature of women’s current opinions in developing nations where most of them presently want fewer children. Those are good points, but they are not the main issue. If the world’s population grows at its current rate, then within a hundred years or so, the planet cannot support all the people, or at best, it cannot give them any minimum quality of life. The obvious solution is fewer births. Other solutions like allowing war and disease to do the job are as inappropriate as ignoring the smallpox vaccine would have been. Relying on future technology to support more people is not going to work in the long run. If you will grant me that, I will grant you “theirselves.”
Re: a comment on Crappy by drnick	drnick 141.218.60.36	17-Oct-06/8:09 AM
It's about being atheist, and how nothing is this world is all that great without the meaning that we create for it. Just as rain sliding down the window is not all that profound unless I had made it (which you pointed out i did not).
Re: a comment on Crappy by drnick	drnick 141.218.60.36	17-Oct-06/8:05 AM
the final rhyme was meant to be too direct, as I thought it would be "sappy" to end that way. the rewriting of the world line just means this person could really make a difference in the world, change things.
Re: Crappy by drnick	Shuushin 63.167.136.250	17-Oct-06/7:24 AM
It isn't really clear what this is about (in the poem - the commented reference makes it, if not meaningless, inconsequential). rain sliding down the window is approximately as primitive as one can get when describing rain sliding down a window.
Re: Israel (Through The Eyes Of One Jewish Soul) by slana5	Edna Sweetlove 85.210.220.187	17-Oct-06/7:01 AM
This poem has been posted twice. This copy is just as applalling as the first posting. Sickening. Israel is a rogue usurping state, hated by all except the Americans.
Re: Israel (Through The Eyes Of One Jewish Soul) by slana5	Edna Sweetlove 85.210.220.187	17-Oct-06/6:59 AM
ISRAEL Land of broken promises Land stolen from the Palestians Land of liars, crooks and murderers Land supported by the Yanks Land hopefully to disappear from the map
Re: Crappy by drnick	Edna Sweetlove 85.210.220.187	17-Oct-06/6:57 AM
Puerile. Unamusing. Not witty. Not clever. Badly punctuated. And those are some of the better aspects.
Re: Lady Bradbury’s Excursion by Dovina	Edna Sweetlove 85.210.220.187	17-Oct-06/6:55 AM
Doughnut, dear. "Donut" is the brand name.
Re: Left the key in dream den's door by capachijim	Edna Sweetlove 85.210.220.187	17-Oct-06/6:54 AM
Not impressed; clumsy wording and a limp punchline. Could have been worse. Could have been illiterate!
Re: a comment on weather poem part 3: the hurricane (renga) by nypoet22	Ranger 62.252.32.15	17-Oct-06/4:25 AM
Hung on heavy air -they scatter. Haze is broken by rusty stormclouds
Re: a comment on Timing by Dovina	Ranger 62.252.32.15	17-Oct-06/4:20 AM
Well okay, if you're not deeply Catholic or something like that, maybe birth control should be made more available and acceptable. But you've then got to tie that in with the aforementioned shift in attitudes, and more importantly, with a change in circumstances for those people who you're talking about. And that change in circumstance won't happen if you just target the ordinary people. What power do they have? You say that women in this sort of situation would prefer to have fewer children. That may well be true at present, but it's a potentially cyclic desire. We're seeing it happen here; women wanted, and to an extent got, the power to have their own careers, lives, freedom and something vaguely approaching equality with men. And it's backfired spectacularly for some, who've got to the point where they've decided they now want a family, but can't have one. A rising number of women are now eschewing the career opportunities in order to return to having a traditional family. That's how I was brought up so my view is probably blinkered, certainly, but in 5 or 10 years we could be seeing a large percentage of women actually wanting to be housewives with 3 or 4 kids. And the same could easily happen in the parts of the world we've been discussing; after a decade or two of liberty, women may begin to actively want to return to being mothers-of-many. In which case, won't we be back to where we started? As for the typos, I'll admit to the second, should have had a space, but 'themselves' really annoys me. 'Work it out for them selves' doesn't make sense to me. The self is the possession of the individual, right? So 'my self' and 'your self' should in the plural become 'their selves', surely?
Re: a comment on Work by half.italian	Ranger 62.252.32.15	17-Oct-06/4:03 AM
Euphoria? Not an overpowering sense of nihilism? That's what I often get from films. What did you think to Requiem For A Dream? I utterly hated it. 'Crash' had the finest moment of raw emotion in of any film I've ever seen.
Re: Crappy by drnick	Ranger 62.252.32.15	17-Oct-06/3:58 AM
Heh. Line 5 needs punctuating, and the final rhyme is too direct - all the rest are loose/half rhymes. 'Sure you could rewrite the world' makes me think this was written about a computer programmer/serial gamer.
Re: a comment on Work by half.italian	half.italian 70.36.242.152	17-Oct-06/12:41 AM
Excellent movies do this to me no matter what the subject. It's a gift that I enjoy from time to time. I watched "Born into Brothels" and then "Bukowski: Born into This" I really need to describe the feeling more elaborately. It's much more complicated than just making me question things. It's extremely empowering, and gives me an incredible euphoria that few things in life compare to. It forces me to question how I live and what is important in life. It makes everything seem possible for a while. This is the feeling that built Hollywood. While I LOVED "American Beauty" the first thru fifth time I saw it, I recently rented it and was disappointed. It's not a great movie for repeat viewing. Another movie that did this to me and still my favorite movie: "Lost In Translation"
Re: Crappy by drnick	drnick 24.176.22.254	17-Oct-06/12:00 AM
This piece of shit was inspired by Dovina's poem, "A Scientist's Prayer". So thanks, Dovinator(that's my new name for you). Jesus was a pussy. I love pussy. => I love Jesus.
Re: a comment on Timing by Dovina	Dovina 70.38.78.229	16-Oct-06/6:27 PM
Does knowledge beget responsibility? That, I believe, is the question. Does the knowledge of how to cure smallpox, for example, beget responsibility to do all in our power to spread the vaccine throughout the world until the disease is eradicated? Few people asked, in those days, whether it was one person’s right to incur smallpox if that person wanted it. I do not say that birth control should be forced on all people for the good of future generations, but it should be recommended, encouraged, funded, and rewarded in more ways than insightful people are now doing. The suffering and death resulting from not using that knowledge promises to be greater than the suffering we would have seen if we had not used our knowledge about smallpox. Oh, by the way, typos = theirselves, echelonsof. :)
Re: a comment on weather poem part 3: the hurricane (renga) by nypoet22	Dovina 70.38.78.229	16-Oct-06/6:22 PM
Smallish bees crawl up her nose gather sweets for winter treats
Re: a comment on weather poem part 3: the hurricane (renga) by nypoet22	nypoet22 65.9.15.40	16-Oct-06/2:28 PM
her unborn face hangs amniotic, Selene over the summer sky