Assuming no prior knowledge, "to say a person is full of crap without first considering what she has said" is an example of making an assertion based on insufficient evidence. Is that what you mean by closed minded? I don't think you have a clear idea what you mean.

Say it in a nasty way if you wish, I know it's your style. I never said I am 100% openminded, but said that to the extent I am openminded I am a better person. It will take more than false claims and straw men to make me shut up.

1) That's so unlikely that "impossible" is a good word to describe it. 2)Determining the truth of a proposition requires it to be considered. That is not the same as saying anyone who believes any proposition is true or false is openminded. You can believe a proposition is true without even considering it. To consider it requires enough acceptance (openmindedness) to consider it. And example of closed mindedness is to say a person is full of crap without first considering what she has said. 3)Yes

Isn't it strange how I say "straw man" when you posit some theory to my credit and the theory has no relationship to what I was saying or any implication drawn from what I said?

Me, I do.

I pardon your typo and agree - it's a symbol of grusome execution. I said that in the poem without any grammar mangling.

Yes, and at the time this feeling was entirely real, still is.

I usually try to avoid the sappy, but must admit to its lure sometimes.

"gruesome education" is a typo, but funny. Of course, I meant "gruesome execution".

You're so full of crap you're steaming. 1) What if one happens by chance to believe only true propositions and reject false ones? Surely you'd agree that's as possible as anything else. 2) Would you say "to determine the truth of a proposition requires it to be considered"? Of course you would. So basically you're saying anyone who believes any proposition is true or false is openminded. Doesn't that strike you as obviously crap? Oh, you mean "to determine the REAL truth/falsity of a proposition..." Then you're doubly full of crap. 3) Would you consider yourself openminded regarding the proposition that you're a total wackjob?

I can't help noticing that whenever you're dissed you just pretend you were talking about something totally different. Does that work?

Stop saying straw man. You've said almost exactly those words twice now on other poems. One of them is here: http://www.poemranker.com/poem-details.jsp?id=121987

You dope. Newsflash: Philosophy is your religion. The Great Divorce is crap. So is Spinoza. You are a right-wing fundamentalist.

1) You heard that somewhere. 2) You don't think Durr_T_hip_E is reasonable either. And I happen to know he heard all that somewhere. 3) Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying now. No, that's not what I said before. For that, I'm truly, pants-fillingly ashamed.

Only figuratively. Since moving to the desert I'm lucky to fill my bloomers once weekly, and only with rabbit pellets at that. What does a symbolic cross look like? Who looks at a symbolic cross and thinks "hey, that calls to mind a gruesome method of execution!"?

What do you mean, "see thourgh a grammatical error"? The topic of the conversation is whether or not the cross is a symbol of gruesome execution or an instrument of gruesome education. It think that makes it pretty relevant that you're trying to make the cross a "symbol" of execution by grammar-mangling. PS-Don't whemy yourself. I disagree with -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I.

You're full of crap.

Okay, stop. One, no one here hates open minds, least of all me. I hate people who say they have open minds and are actually addlebrained bigots and hypocrites. Two, no one's claiming to have a more open mind than you. Three, if someone says "I'm probably not 100% openminded" and you say "I'm 100% openminded", you think that means you're more openminded than they are. It doesn't. For one thing, it means they're openminded about the possibility of having a closed mind, while you're not. If that were the only criterion for openmindedness, they'd be more openminded than you. (Incidentally, this is most of the reason why you think you're less racist, sexist, ageist and gayist than everybody here, too.) Four, openmindedness has nothing to do with accepting or knowing anything, truth or not. I thought that was demonstrated about a week ago. Would you like diagrams? Five, your above comment doesn't make any sense. Six, all those things you say are vague platitudes (see below) you say all the time. And they're not platitudes. So shut up.