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The Rockets’ Song (Free verse) by Dovina
Alignment with this war has awakened hope, for war is life to us, not death— romantic violence, chivalrous at last under technology’s rule. The President called as Pope Urban did, preaching the first Crusade, admonishing us, who waged wars for self-interest and plunder, to remake ourselves— Soldiers of Democracy, achievers of stature, of warrior nostalgia. I was fired with utopian ideals then, engaged in the tragedy of war, among frauds and adventurers —now a lingering silence—

Down the ladder: Forgiveness

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Posted: December 5, 2004 10:45 AM PST; Last modified: December 5, 2004 10:45 AM PST
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[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 | 5-Dec-04/12:14 PM | Reply
The tradegy of war... I sometimes wonder whether the real tradegy isn't war, but you, and you're appalling poemes :(
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 5-Dec-04/2:26 PM | Reply
Thank you so much for the 10-vote of confidence and your kind words. I may have shocked you with dismay in calling attention to this abysmal outcome of so many young men, urging your use of strong language to describe both me and my poetry. I do apologize.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > Dovina | 5-Dec-04/3:28 PM | Reply
You may have shocked me with dismay, but I shocked you with even more dismay in calling attention to the abysmal outcome of so many of you're poemes, urging you're use of mouth-plum language. I don't apogolize.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 6-Dec-04/8:52 AM | Reply
Before air conditioning, I always sailed port-outbound, starboard-home, preferring reality over the pretense of class. Since arriving in the New World, I have appreciated inelegant Americanisms over British attempts at sounding posh with prudish expressions like “mouth plums” and pretentiously funny nonsense like “you’re” for “your.”
[n/a] richa @ 81.178.231.86 > Dovina | 6-Dec-04/11:01 AM | Reply
you must forgive Dark_Angel he does not appreciate what common stock you come from.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > richa | 6-Dec-04/12:23 PM | Reply
Yes, we do come from a common stock, though it’s hard to see how that matters.
[n/a] richa @ 81.178.231.86 > Dovina | 6-Dec-04/12:47 PM | Reply
you can not have class coming from common stock. you must first gain wealth performing the tawdriest of favours and only with that wealth can your descendants begin to live down your sin like we all had to of adam's.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > richa | 6-Dec-04/1:30 PM | Reply
An interesting, perhaps plutocratic, view of wealth and class. “Common stock,” of course, has two almost opposite meanings, which we have gouged each other with in goodhearted fun. But “sin” cannot be so used. I find it appalling that you consider it a sin to perform the tawdriest of favours. I know many people performing menial tasks who have more class than some of the wealthiest. The two seem unrelated.
[n/a] richa @ 81.178.231.86 > Dovina | 6-Dec-04/1:40 PM | Reply
the sin is not the tawdry favours but the being of common stock. the original sin was you see not being tempted in the garden of eden but the unmentionable temptation of matching ones curtains with ones carpet. to contemplate such a transgression makes my blood run cold.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > richa | 6-Dec-04/1:51 PM | Reply
Then I have committed the sin of descending from the common stock of Eve and being tempted to place a shade of beige in my drapes that matches my carpet. But how is temptation a sin? I only sin if do the unmentionable act.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > Dovina | 6-Dec-04/6:13 PM | Reply
Coveting anything that is thy neighbour's is a sin. And what is coveting but suffering temptation? Shouldst thou covet thy neighbour's Nintendo Game Cube, thou hast committed an sin, regardless of whether or not thou hast stolen thy neighbour's Nintendo Game Cube, and hast concealed it deep within thy bosom.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 6-Dec-04/7:23 PM | Reply
Temptation preceedeth coveting, lest what shall a man covet that doeth not draw his interest? He sinneth not unless he proceedeth from seeing to coveting.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > Dovina | 7-Dec-04/3:33 AM | Reply
And yet thou couldst covet thy neighbour's arse whilst shackled in a cage, wherein thou couldst perform no ill deed unto thy neighbour's arse. To covet is but to yearn after, is it not? And how is that different from suffering the bulging temptation of as fine a brace of buttocks as e'er thou hast seen?
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 7-Dec-04/12:42 PM | Reply
To covet is to yearn after. But I would not covet the same brace of buttocks you would, even if we are both tempted, as we are, by all braces of buttocks we see. Tempting is not something I do, except hopefully to certain others. Coveting I do, and not to others. To the extent that it’s a sin, I sin in coveting, but if being tempted were a sin, then sin is unavoidable. So, shun the temptation of those buttocks, and sin not. Good day.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.14.17 > Dovina | 9-Dec-04/5:50 AM | Reply
Plum. You have no idea what any of the words you use actually mean.

In Arabic, the expression "she thought" sounds like "fuck-rat"; the expression "he thought" sounds like "fuck-'er".
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > Dovina | 6-Dec-04/5:55 PM | Reply
Yes but you don't prefer reality over the pretense of class, do you? That's why you're using mouth-plums like "shocked you with dismay" and "calling attention to this abysmal outcome" and "urging your use of strong language". Those are hardly inelegant Americanisms. They aren't Americanisms at all. Here are some Americanisms: Good job! Howdy! Y'all! None of those are mouth-plums. Your mouth-plums look far more like an attempt to sound posh than anything I've temerariously deigned to inscribe.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 6-Dec-04/7:22 PM | Reply
“Shocked with dismay,” “abysmal outcome,” and “urging your use of strong language,” are inelegant because they use ordinary words with their ordinary definitions to point out your prudish arrogance. Your elegant “mouth plums” relies on cultural setting and carries an air of aristocracy – an elegant Briticism. “Howdy!” and “Y'all!” are particular to sections of the US, not general Americanisms.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > Dovina | 7-Dec-04/3:23 AM | Reply
Well "mouth-plum" is particular to -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. yet you still saw fit to label it a Briticism. Do you consider -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. to be the sole embodiment of all things British? I consider him to be the sole embodiment of all things Brownish. Good day.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.14.17 > Dovina | 9-Dec-04/5:54 AM | Reply
You dumb. "Americanism" just means "a phrase or term originated in America."

The idea that you use "ordinary words with their ordinary definitions" to point out anything is preposterous. That's exactly what -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I. does and you don't. That's how he knew that "shocked" and "dismay" are, respectively, adjective and noun forms of the same fucking thing, and "urging" doesn't mean what you think it does, and you didn't.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > zodiac | 9-Dec-04/12:22 PM | Reply
You will likely be shocked, but not dismayed upon learning, which I urge you to do, that a plum only carries the meaning -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I. imputed when stripped of its ordinary, dictionary definition.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 82.39.20.71 > Dovina | 9-Dec-04/12:35 PM | Reply
You are a big posh sod, with plums in your mouth.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.11.11 > Dovina | 11-Dec-04/5:46 AM | Reply
For one thing, please describe for me how someone "shocked, but not dismayed" would appear in any wise differently from one, say, dismayed but not shocked, and which of the two would win an all-out no-holds-barred brassknuckles staring contest of the olden sort.

For another thing, -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I. didn't impute anything, you dumb fuck. And would you not agree that it's boringly characteristic of you to misuse a word during a conversation about using words according to their precise meanings?

For another thing, no one's fucking been talking about the meaning "plum" carries, normally or otherwise. Oh, except you, just now. The point is not that Briticisms, Americanisms, or what have you use words differently from their dictionary meanings; that's not even your original point.

And besides, if you'd bothered to check, you'd know that "plum" as used on poemranker actually means 'a large purplish kind of mealy fruit'. Good one!
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > zodiac | 11-Dec-04/11:51 AM | Reply
We both know the meanings of "shocked" and "dismayed," or you can look them up. Why do you carry on as if they meant the same thing? The same could be said for "plum" as used in "mouth plum" and as defined in dictionaries.

I do wish you'd calm down sometimes.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.11.11 > Dovina | 11-Dec-04/11:06 PM | Reply
You're still not getting it. Mouth-plum really means '[something like] a purplish mealy fruit in or coming from your mouth.' In an earlier, perhaps better version, it was actually a question: Is there a plum stuck in your mouth? Surely, you can't fault that for straying from the dictionary definition. Oh, right. You probably can. Because you don't get it.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.11.11 > Dovina | 11-Dec-04/11:23 PM | Reply
Now try this:

If you think -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I. is some hopeless relic of the aristocracy because he uses obscure slangy expressions while you, Dovina, champion the proletariat by supporting dictionary definitions and disdaining slang, you're totally backwards. Besides, if you think that, you'll have utterly reversed/contraried yourself from your last month's bungled argument.

As everyone in the world knows, most slang expressions are made up by the poorer classes. It's in their interest, since it's a stick in the eye of the aristocracy, and since they probably won't get really get real language usage anyway. It's in the upper-classes' interest to defend dictionary definitions; besides, the aristocracy and people controlled by the aristocracy write dictionaries, so it's in their interest to include their own special meanings in them. You'll notice that in cases of slang expressions invented by the aristocracy (i.e., "Jolly good!" or the way many Brits say "Right!" every couple of seconds), the words are mostly used according to their dictionary definitions, while most proletarian slang terms I can think of depend on using a word removed from (or only slightly related to) its original meaning - like "to shag", "fucking", or "dyke".

In short, of course -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I. is a relic of the aristocracy. Everyone knows that. Unfortunately for you, that only means anything to someone who'd assign value to a person based on his class, which is called racist. And if you've proved anything here, it's just that -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I. is an aristocrat badly imitating proletarian slang expressions and you're a proletarian (or middle-classer, more likely,) badly imitating aristocratic dictionary-love, which everybody knows already. And you come out a lot worse for it.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > zodiac | 12-Dec-04/9:45 AM | Reply
Oh, I'm getting it! You're moving your definitions of nebulous terms around to suit your most recent arguement, rather than, as I am, sticking to the dictionary definitions. Slang, by the way, is alright if we both know what it means; otherwise it's no better than jargon.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.14.17 > Dovina | 13-Dec-04/5:14 AM | Reply
"Plum" as used on poemranker is only nebulous inasmuch as you are an extremely nebulous person incapable of getting it, which is a lot. Why don't you do yourself a favor and enter the term "plum" on the comment search-o-mat above? Oh, right, because your dumb.

PS-Don't talk about slang anymore until you get some kind of idea about it. Slang is designed to be unintelligible to everyone who's not "special" enough to be let in on it. Consider: when enough people start getting a slang term, the originators usually change terms. Jargon is designed to be intelligible to everyone in the field to which it applies. Jargon is only useful if both parties in a dialogue know what it means. Slang is even cooler when one of the parties doesn't know what it means. In most other ways, the two words are unrelated except in your dim conception of them. And "plum" on poemranker actually means plum, you dimtard!!!

In short, your totally backwards again. Be ashamed.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > zodiac | 13-Dec-04/10:18 AM | Reply
You are so, so cool! Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > zodiac | 13-Dec-04/1:22 PM | Reply
You must receive great pleasure in being unintelligible to everyone who's not special enough to be let in on your slang, to be one of the people who know what it means. Strange, I thought writing was a means of communication.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 82.39.20.71 > Dovina | 13-Dec-04/2:25 PM | Reply
Wrong. Writing is a means of asserting your greater worth over people of lesser worth.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 13-Dec-04/2:27 PM | Reply
If you have greater worth, then you have no need to assert it, and therefore no need to write.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > Dovina | 13-Dec-04/3:08 PM | Reply
Of course you don't *need* to assert it. I don't *need* to wear Westbury suits. But I do so anyway because they are superior to other brands. If you have greater worth, it is inherently desirable to make others recognise the greatness of your worth, then watch as they become painfully aware of their own shortcomings. Only then can you bask in the swollen crotch of an ectsasy.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 13-Dec-04/3:40 PM | Reply
Why do I feel no pain over this? Oh yes, it's because my Naturalizer pumps are both comfortable and stylish.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.14.17 > Dovina | 16-Dec-04/6:07 AM | Reply
This comment fits with my image of you as an extremely failed thirty-year-old woman. Your poem "Better Sex" doesn't, except in an extremely terrifying way.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.14.17 > Dovina | 16-Dec-04/6:05 AM | Reply
I imagine you suggesting if someone DOESN'T have greater worth, he DOES have need to assert it. Which is probably the principle behind every poemranker post.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > zodiac | 16-Dec-04/12:57 PM | Reply
,including the other response to my comment, which is the epitome of pretentious self deception.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.11.11 > Dovina | 17-Dec-04/10:16 PM | Reply
Excuse the bumblings of an admitted simpleton, but I'd say the epitome of pretentious self-deception is something like "I'm not a pretentious self-deceiver". You could even say that's a meta-epitome of meta-pretentious meta-self-deceit, which would probably appeal to you, things like "meta" seeming to appeal to you.

Of course, I would never dare suggest I wasn't a pretentious self-deceiver. Would you?
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 82.39.20.71 > Dovina | 13-Dec-04/2:27 PM | Reply
By the way, if you'd even bothered to search google for the phrase "plums in your mouth" or variations, you could have avoided all this weeping and gnashing, because you would have realised a) what it meant b) that it's a common phrase c) that your thick.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 16-Dec-04/1:01 PM | Reply
If you’d been paying attention, you would have known that this has already been covered and recovered. Does anyone really not understand the fictitious -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I., his extreme arrogance, the preposterous higher order of human in which he asserts himself as if innately better, his obsession with demeaning the lower classes and instilling what he hopes to be pain? Does anyone not suspect he is the embodiment of thwarted lives seeking betterment through a Superman or Spiderman. Collaborate if you will in producing him. The project might even attract me if the character were not so obnoxious. It’s a fine fantasy you have, but for god’s sake, read the others’ posts. It’s like talking to an Alzheimer’s victim who may or may not remember our last conversation.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > Dovina | 17-Dec-04/12:26 PM | Reply
"Does anyone not suspect he is the embodiment of thwarted lives seeking betterment through a Superman or Spiderman."

lol 'embodiement of thwarted lives'. Good grief you couldn't be more wrong. 'Through a Superman or Spiderman'? That's hilarious. It's hilarious because you included the 'or Spiderman', as if Spiderman some how has particular qualities, distinct from those of Superman, or any other generic superhero, that may or may not be more suited to the -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. persona. Well your colossally wrong big time. It's patently obvious to anyone who 'gets' -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I., that he is an attempt at seeking betterment through a Batman. Something that is completely different from seeking betterment through a Superman, or even a Spiderman. You fool.

"The project might even attract me if the character were not so obnoxious."

How gallant of you to decline our offer. In fact the -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. team were so desperate for your input, that one of my colleagues burst into tears when he heard you weren't interested in the project. We'll try and carry on without you, but I fear it will be an uphill struggle. :(
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 17-Dec-04/1:09 PM | Reply
I’m sure you mean the team was desperate, not “were desperate.” And another thing: Saying someone is colossally wrong and a fool over trivial differences among the superheroes is a trait of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. that is overused. The team should consider revising such abuse of superlatives because it discredits the times when he says someone is colossally wrong, and the person really is. I remain available for consultation on matters such as this, and more so when spoken to with at least minimal decency. :)
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > Dovina | 17-Dec-04/1:47 PM | Reply
I stand by my superlatives, dear. If you think differences between superheroes are so trivial, why did you include "or Spiderman"? THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 17-Dec-04/1:52 PM | Reply
I almost didn't, then thought I might offend your senibilities with the antiquated Superman or Batman. I try to be polite that way, even while considering all of them on a par. I find nothing collossal about it.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 82.39.20.71 > Dovina | 17-Dec-04/2:00 PM | Reply
This isn't about me, Dovina. It's about your bulging failure to use and interpret words correctly. For example, you don't realise that "the team were desperate" is the preferred form in British English, which is the Batman's English.

Your misunderstandings of regional variations in language use alone form a vast, whooshing catalogue of "hobo guss". When taken together with your shocking physical, personal, social, and ethical deformities, it's a wonder you can even struggle into your full-body wellington in the morning, let alone summon up the energy to make mistake after terrifying mistake on the internet.

Case in point: "colossal" is spelled "colossal."
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 17-Dec-04/2:29 PM | Reply
Please carry on. You’re right in character now.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 82.39.20.71 > Dovina | 18-Dec-04/5:35 AM | Reply
lol. You say something like that whenever you've been beaked to the max.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 18-Dec-04/10:26 AM | Reply
You say something like that whenever you've been beaked to the max.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 82.39.20.71 > Dovina | 18-Dec-04/11:35 AM | Reply
No, I say something like that when *you've* been beaked to the max. But I can see how you would make that mistake.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.11.11 > Dovina | 17-Dec-04/10:36 PM | Reply
Oh God, your so lost. It's touching, really.

Try this: The difference between Superman and Spiderman is Superman was born on Krypton, Spiderman was born on Earth. And Superman works for the Daily Planet, Spiderman works for the Daily Bugle.

The difference between Batman and most heroes is Batman is a millionaire recluse who gets out of tough spots by using the gadgets on his toolbelt. In his latter days, he's a wheelchair bound superrecluse mentor to a string of protege Batpeople. and he's not even a reporter at all.

Are you suggesting -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I., is seeking betterment through either an alien or a genetically-enhanced human? Of course not! You just think it's cool to seem to make more-or-less irrelevant distinctions between virtually indistinguishable things, and not get real distinctions between discrete things. In your real, outside life, people probably nod politely and say "Oh, yeah your right," and then conveniently neglect to invite you to St Crispin's Day parties.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > zodiac | 18-Dec-04/10:55 AM | Reply
I’m impressed with your knowledge of the superheroes. Frankly, they are all boring, and I lump them all into embodiments of fantasy. We all have our escapes, and if you find Batman more appealing, then fine. In regard to your suggestion that we ALL deceive ourselves, that is true in various amounts and ways. I only wished to point out the way in which the “team” embodies a superhero.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 82.39.20.71 > Dovina | 18-Dec-04/11:50 AM | Reply
Which is how? Let's examine your higgledy-piggledy position.

Quote: "Does anyone not suspect he is the embodiment of thwarted lives seeking betterment through a Superman or Spiderman."

I mean forget about the details of any given superhero. The sentence just doesn't make any sense.

1. Superman does not "play" or "embody" Superman -- he *is* Superman. He doesn't pretend to have Super-powers -- he does have them. (The same goes for Spiderman, and indeede Batman.) If anything, he is playing at being Clark Kent. This is the exact reverse of your claim.

2. Furthermore, Superman and Spiderman, the two superheroes heroes you mentioned, aren't log-ins to an internet forum that multiple people use. They are single people. (Ironically, comparing -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. to Batman would have made more sense, since according to zodiac, Batman is an identity taken on by more than person.

3. I suppose you will retort by saying that *reading* about Superman is an escapist fantasy of the sort your mentioning. Probably your higgledy-piggledy mind can't understand the difference between "embodying" a shero and "vicariously living" through reading about his exploits.

You've mussed-up everything, Dovina. Everything.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 18-Dec-04/12:19 PM | Reply
The sentence does make sense, though I should have ended it with a rhetorical question mark. Either way, it says nothing about whether Superman and the others are real or not, though we both know they are imaginary. Also, in your No. 2, it says nothing about whether they are log-ins on the internet, though we both know they are not. I will retort, as you suspected, that they provide escapist fantasy for many people, which I compare to the escapist fantasy of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. I may have, as you say, messed up everything.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 82.39.20.71 > Dovina | 18-Dec-04/12:38 PM | Reply
You have a remarkable propensity to abandon each of your positions as it sinks. However, let us consider this new position. In fact it is not yet a position; merely a declaration that you *have* a position. What is your comparison between the escapist fantasy of comic-book readers and the alleged escapist fantasy of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I.?
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 18-Dec-04/12:56 PM | Reply
It is not a new position, but the same one I have been discussing all along. Perhaps you are another aspect of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. and have not read the other posts. To repeat, he is “the embodiment of thwarted lives seeking betterment through a superhero.” Through “extreme arrogance” and “the preposterous higher order of human in which he asserts himself as if innately better,” and his “obsession with demeaning the lower classes and instilling what he hopes to be pain” he becomes like a figure of escapist fantasy. I could go on about how he might be attractive were it not for . . . , etc., but please read, it’s all there.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 82.39.20.71 > Dovina | 18-Dec-04/1:06 PM | Reply
No, look. You haven't said what the comparison is. You've only announced that you've made a comparison. One imagines you have written this down on a piece of notepaper and forgotten to post it onto the internet.

The mythical comparison, as you have stated it, is between the escapist fantasy of a reader of superhero comic books and the alleged escapist fantasy of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. Do you know what a comparison is? It consists of listing the similarities and differences between the two compared things, perhaps with some sort of conclusion at the end.

So far you haven't listed any similarities or differences between the escapist fantasies of superhero comic book readers and the alleged escapist fantasies of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I., except to say that they are both escapist fantasies, which is not a comparison at all, because the question is how they compare *qua* escapist fantasies.

Specifically, superheroes aren't "extremely arrogant." They don't "assert themselves to be innately better." They don't have an "obsession with demeaning the lower classes and instilling what they hope to be pain." By extension, the escapist fantasies of readers of these comics probably don't have these features.

You could make a more profitable comparison between the escapist fantasies of the writers of supervillain comics and the alleged escapist fantasies of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. Remember, though, what a comparison is. You can't just say "I compare these two things."
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 18-Dec-04/1:31 PM | Reply
I’m sorry, I thought that was obvious. Yes the superheroes do not usually hoist themselves in arrogance and demean the lower classes, except for the villain-heroes, which might draw some of the same following -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. draws. It is only the magnetic capacity of the hero that I see raising him in fantasy like -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I., not his character unless it happens to be similar. People were drawn to Hitler and Jim Jones for escape and identification with a greater man, and I don’t mean to compare those men to -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.32.104 > Dovina | 20-Dec-05/2:02 PM | Reply
Dear -=Dark_Angel, P.I.=-

Christmas Greetings and Holiday Cheer.

A year later and not much has changed.

Someday you may find your existence defined by an ache in some part of your anatomy, (Oh, you’ve felt it before, but this time it’s different), and you begin to doubt that the planets revolve about you according to the logical rules you have believed for so long. You may then laugh upon reading some writer who inspires the ache, and thus feel less alone with the sting.

Merry Christmas,
Dovina
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.14.17 > Dovina | 19-Dec-04/6:13 AM | Reply
If you weren't such a newcomer to the whole anti-religion reaction, you'd probably get why Batman is such a cooler superhero than Superman and even Spiderman. As it is you almost certainly won't - and this, as I've mentioned, is terrifically sad in an thirty-year-old woman, especially one so otherwise-failed as well. Anyway, I must have been, like, six when I realized God didn't exist (for all practical purposes) and people still believed in Him and would probably go on believing in Him forever. When you get to the point where God might as well exist (for all practical purposes), give me a call. That's also the point where the hotties are, so you get laid a lot more.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.11.11 > Dovina | 17-Dec-04/10:47 PM | Reply
I'm lost. Are you admitting that mouth-plums are real plums? Or that slang-use is irrespective of class (or the opposite of what you thought)? Or that it's meant to be unintelligible to most? Or that someone of greater worth can, but doesn't need to, assert it?

Or that your "arguements", like so many sunwilted and spoiled-smelling meat-hats, have collapsed around your greasy ears, so the only thing you can think to do is Poot loudly enough to cover the sickly squelch?
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > zodiac | 18-Dec-04/1:51 AM | Reply
Of course your lost. Everyone is. That's what happens when you try to explain things to Dovina. She is unable to sustain a thought for anything longer than the time it takes for a snowflake to melt on the eyelash of a startled deer. As my analogy may suggest, it's a typical female trait. It is well known that women are generally better at multi-tasking than men. This makes them good at house work, and nattering, but when it comes to moderately intense concentration their brains go higgledy-piggledy, and they start parping-off in all directions at once. And then they probably think something like, "Oh these men! They just can't keep up with me!" I'm surprised you persist. I gave up on the Superman-Spiderman thing the second she earnestly began correcting my use of superlatives :(
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 18-Dec-04/10:36 AM | Reply
A snowflake does not melt when it lands on the eyelash of a deer because the temperature of the eyelash is below freezing as is the temperature of the snowflake.
This simple truth has eluded you as has the falsehood of the rest of your rant about the natures of women. But like I said above, you are right in character now, irritating, insinuating, drumming up reaction from the common folk for your insults.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 82.39.20.71 > Dovina | 18-Dec-04/11:54 AM | Reply
Yes, but your "simple truth" is a buncombe. The snowflake's melting isn't a result of its contact with the eyelash. Clearly, the surface area between the snowflake and the eyelash is small. It melts because the air around the deer's body, especially its head, is warm.

Are there any fields of knowledge you are not prepared to propose absurd falsehoods in?
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 18-Dec-04/12:24 PM | Reply
It melts only if the warmth of the deer’s head is sufficient, which could be next spring. You’re just trying to make an inept analogy work.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.14.17 > Dovina | 23-Dec-04/5:16 AM | Reply
Considering the context, I think we have to assume the deer is in the throes of love, menopause, or both.
[n/a] zodiac @ 212.118.14.17 > Dovina | 19-Dec-04/6:37 AM | Reply
I love this part about how -=Dark_Angel=-,P.I. is "drumming up reaction from the common folk", like some sort of charismatic Adolf Jones wannabe. But are you sure you're not just saying that because he's kicking your tail and you want to cry? For one thing, who the fuck is getting 'drummed up'?????

Look, I feel bad for you. I really do. And I want this to end, honestly. Why can't you just START MAKING SENSE, for Chrissakes? This is a site for reading and critiquing POEMS, not for hurling around unfounded personal attacks and groundless suggestions that someone is (or isn't) a superhero or Hitler. Jeez!
[n/a] Stephen Robins @ 84.13.4.195 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 6-Dec-04/11:06 AM | Reply
I thought you liked dovina?
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > Stephen Robins | 6-Dec-04/6:03 PM | Reply
That's why I gave her a -10-
[7] celticskatermatt1 @ 68.7.187.148 | 5-Dec-04/4:31 PM | Reply
could be a bit more intruging
[9] Dan garcia-Black @ 66.159.205.219 | 6-Dec-04/9:03 AM | Reply
Are rockets are a phallic symbol in the title?
...for war is life to us,
-not death—(Is this death necessary?}.
Yep,war is romantic until it touches you with stray bit o' metal. -9- Ask Michael Moore for the extra point to make it a ten.
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > Dan garcia-Black | 6-Dec-04/9:53 AM | Reply
Must everything be phallic?
[9] Dan garcia-Black @ 66.218.59.21 > Dovina | 6-Dec-04/10:37 AM | Reply
Yes.
[n/a] patty t @ 69.158.113.158 > Dovina | 6-Dec-04/8:09 PM | Reply
Those who find phalluses (phalli?) in everything have their heads up their ass. It happens to be a very useful shape, whether for cocks, rockets, train tunnels, or rifles. That's all it is - a useful shape. The world needs to get over it.
[10] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > patty t | 7-Dec-04/3:24 AM | Reply
You need to get over it.
[n/a] INTRANSIT @ 64.12.116.138 > patty t | 7-Dec-04/9:03 AM | Reply
THANK YOU!!! Though the debate over such thoughts can inspire interesting poetry. If nothing else.
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