Bacchus you are over the top and quite humorous with these little rants. I'm still not sure if the poems are plain prejudice or genuine social commentary. I suppose it is all in who is doing the reading.

it's genuine social commentary. Bacchus is in there with the riff-raff. He's got one eye open, his left hand on the bottle and his right hand on the truth of it.

well i guess that depends on whether or not you swim naked at the ymca doesn't it? i mean honestly what do you think babbit?, have you ever smoked a fat cock..i mean really choked on the flesh of a thick pud....oh jesu'...it's salivating...who cares? you? tell me all about it...cry on my shoulder...i'm here for you...do you need to come out? i do..... prayers of jesu' "forgive my dirty enbrowning prawn". for running nude and imagining...i'm so pretentious..lordy...please...you haven't read enough of my work to vaguely comment, just because you're number? on the countdown doesn't mean you've broken into scotland yard man...chill! killian red saves lives and irish pub hounds...vegg and pray man...pray for cock!

I read all your work. I just commented on this. As far as the other, my days of experimentation are some days behind. I am quite content where I am now.

listen, "old man" i'm humbled really? experimentation? i honestly havn't even begun to break into my writing mode yet...i've been to busy being horus fucking8 and raising a family by acting in movies and commercials and theatre and playing and composing music and touring with bands to pay attention until now,lol! whatever? who gives a fuck? you? why? because you're a "coservative writer" i'm lol! and sucking up the "oh you should be published if you're not already praise" fuck off.lol! i'm 28 with a girlfriend for five years and an artist struggling in the thick of it...every fucking day...i haven't worked nine to fivw since i was twenty i do what i want to do "art for lunatics with huge nothings"the flesh mesh mind fuck industry...don't give me your iowa workshop hype shit.. okay! i'm in the middle of it man! on the frontlines and raising a family as an artist so.....take your grown up shit elsewear chief joseph.. i was in the military (navy seals) and i did my share of time with "good ole boys like you" so back off or blaze guns, but don't waste my time...okay i need to write..

Obviously, I stuck a chord. The reference to experimentation was in regards to sexual exploits, so the backwoods, good ole boys references are quite amusing there. You sound bitter and easy to judgment. I am happy you make your living on the "frontlines" as you call it and have a family to support you in it. It is a tough business and every dollar counts, but you have already made me aware of that. And you assume I make my living where? You should take it easy, "chill" as you call it. Your rant amuses me for the simple fact that you know nothing of me and just because I write a certain way you have put me into some category that obviously bothers you: what the literary set, the academic set? As far as the Iowa's Writers, well it has produced numerous writers of quality, so I cannot criticize it. Although I did not go there, not opting for the writing education, it does deserve some respect for the talent it has helped mold. Good luck with your family and your pursuits (I have two daughters of my own, and a wife, a cat, and two large dogs, I am 33, and have never been in a movie or a commercial. However, I have had numerous plays produced over the years. I did not perform in or direct any of them. I also have not worked 9 to 5 since I was..hmmm..I guess I never have, not even teaching.) So maybe instead of hopping to conclusions you should do what every good writer does, especially those on the frontlines and dig deeper.

This is interesting.

now that that's established, can you guys get back to it so i have something to read while i should be working? thanks.

yeah.. bastards gotta point with that one...well made...., but i am not a racist cuz i hate everyone including myself...i am the man that bought mystique...nah...i care alot....alot for the special and disadvantaged...that's why i woke up this morning with my head in a toilet and poo on my wrist (i drink and toast for all of them one after the other)...and a florida shaped poo stain in my drawers...i also let the kitty out on accident..i hope she doesn't get tired..e

Ha! You got fucking babbit to come out his forest. You do have a true ruffian spirit. But really Hours, he's one of the good guys, utterly modest, easily humbled. A true proletariat than anyone would be proud to drink with. Oh and this rasict fucking poem sucks!!! Ha, kidding.

i love babbits stuff...when i'm hunting turkey and bass fishing...nah, he's got alot of talent and he always makes very valid points in his comments, but come on! everyones gotta have a little jeckyle/hyde flair! or life would be a snore and full of long drawn out whitman odes for christ sake...not saying i don't like whitman, just saying...some styles get hollow and overworked, therefore...take a risk..try something new....so, that said....let's pudpull on three...groovy..