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The Influence of Anxiety (Free verse) by Nicholas Jones
'Forget about being original.' I was told in a seminar. By the creative writing teacher. (A moderately successful Scottish poet) 'Because everything has been written before. Nobody has ever created anything Totally original. Because we are all influenced By preceding literature.' Things get a bit Bloomian at this point. Which isn’t a bad thing. Just hold on in there and we’ll have some lyricism soon. There are no texts, Bloom says. Only relationships between texts. All poetry is a misreading of an earlier poem. And all criticism is prose poetry, says Bloom. Bloom says a lot of things. Some of which I believe. But mostly I disbelieve my elders. I don’t want to be indebted to the dead. Especially the ones I revere. A century and more since Bloomsday And has anyone got any further? All the modern novels I read Seem just like the old ones. When did we stop even trying? Because I don’t intend to. You figure out what I mean. So I try to be experimental. But experimental means what B. S. Johnson did in 1973. What Beckett did long before that. What Pound thought was clever When he wasn’t being a fascist. And all literature is experimental anyway. Because writers are always experimenting On the insides of their heads. Because every sentence is an experiment To see what it is possible to say. Because every line is an experiment To determine if self-expression is possible. To discover what needs to be said And whether or not it can be said. So you people will criticise this, You’ll say, where’s the imagery? The metaphors? There’s no similes, No use of poetic devices, no alliteration. The writer doesn’t even appear depressed or suicidal, So what the hell kind of poem is this anyway? And you’ll all try to define What a poem actually is. Just like the creative writing teacher. Who wanted us to all write like her. But perhaps the only way to create a new poetry Is to move away from writing poetry. Is not even to intend to write poetry. Because the term poetry Can only be defined with reference to what has gone before. To what already actually exists in anthologies. But I want to create something new Which isn’t included within the existing definition. So it might not actually be poetry In your current sense of the word. You see that The lights shone on forever and were so bright That their eyes continued to convey images and words But became also conveyers of pain Caused by the light’s brightness. But the eyes remained open Because the alternative was darkness Which is more frightening than damaged retinas And the smell of singed nerves. A hopeless situation: So they turned to their precursors for assistance But were secretly relieved when no succour came.

Up the ladder: Gravity Rides
Down the ladder: White Stork

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Arithmetic Mean: 7.375
Weighted score: 5.638736
Overall Rank: 2154
Posted: May 4, 2004 2:03 AM PDT; Last modified: May 4, 2004 2:03 AM PDT
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[8] INTRANSIT @ 64.12.116.70 | 4-May-04/6:52 AM | Reply
I'll get back to you. In a hunnert or so years.




Poem or not, it is a vehicle to get from your last writ to your next. Most important.
Bloomsday? Hmmmm..
[n/a] Nicholas Jones @ 137.44.1.30 > INTRANSIT | 7-May-04/6:46 AM | Reply
Bloomsday is the day in 1904 on which Ulysses is set. But of course it links to Harold Bloom and antithetical criticism too.
[5] deleted user @ 68.66.196.168 | 4-May-04/10:08 AM | Reply
Except for the last three verses, you have written a nice essay with line breaks. You promised, "we’ll have some lyricism soon," and so we do at the end. "So what the hell kind of poem is this anyway?" You said I'd ask and I do. My low vote is because you have posted an essay.
[n/a] Nicholas Jones @ 137.44.1.30 > deleted user | 7-May-04/6:48 AM | Reply
This is not an essay. And if you think it isn't poetry, you're defining poetry in a particular manner, which is precisely what pissed me off in the first place.

And I don't suppose anybody has noticed the reference to Pound's Canto XXXVIII, have they?
[8] richa @ 81.178.232.136 > Nicholas Jones | 7-May-04/12:35 PM | Reply
Is anything poetry then as long as it has line break because I have noticed something. J.K. Rowling writes two pages of prose a day. She should just put line breaks in and a couple of sentences would do.
[5] deleted user @ 68.66.196.168 > Nicholas Jones | 7-May-04/12:45 PM | Reply
It needs a rhythm of sorts, a lyrical quality about it to be poetry. We've given up the old rules, but poetic nature is not negotiable, not for me. You cannot take any piece of writing and call it a poem! That defeats the unique nature of poetry, which admittedly is emotional, not easily defined, but a real and separate entity just the same.
[n/a] zodiac @ 67.240.155.166 > deleted user | 7-May-04/2:19 PM | Reply
In 1971, SUNY-Buffalo professor Stanley Fish performed an experiment on his poetry class where he left a list of 5 authors on his blackboard from another class and told them it was a religious poem. The poetry students critiqued it surprisingly well, considering it was RANDOM and UTTERLY MEANINGLESS. He wrote about the incident, "My students did not proceed from the noting of distinguishing features to the recognition that they were confronted by a poem: rather, it was the act of recognition that came first - they knew in advance that they were dealing with a poem - and the distinguishing features then followed" (326).

Fish claims to have performed this same experiment thousands of times on lecture audiences with the same result, even though he is now hideously famous for it.
[5] deleted user @ 68.66.196.168 > zodiac | 7-May-04/2:34 PM | Reply
I assume it was a list of five quotes from authors, not a list of five authors, and since it was from another class, the quotes must have been related in some way. It is interesting that he was able to perform this stunt thousands of times.
[n/a] zodiac @ 67.240.192.226 > deleted user | 7-May-04/4:35 PM | Reply
No, I'm afraid the actual "poem" was:

Jacobs-Rosenbaum
Levin
Thorne
Hayes
Ohman (?)

[rougly centered]

"Jacobs was explicated as a reference to Jacob's ladder, traditionally allegorized as a figure for the Christian ascent to heaven. In this poem, however, or so my students told me, the means of ascent is not a ladder but a tree, a rose or rosenbaum. This was seen as an obvious reference to the Virgin Mary, who was often characterized as a rose without thorns, itself an emblem of the Immaculate Conception." - Is There a Text in This Class, Fish, 1980
[5] deleted user @ 68.66.196.168 > zodiac | 7-May-04/4:39 PM | Reply
Incredibly funny. I suppose Thorne was a thorn in the flesh, Hayes the haze over Los Angeles, and Ohman was an omen of forthcoming doom.
[5] deleted user @ 68.66.196.168 > deleted user | 7-May-04/4:56 PM | Reply
Or perhaps Thorne was seen as the missing thorn and an alternative to the emaculate conception of verse 1.
[8] richa @ 81.178.232.136 | 4-May-04/11:26 AM | Reply
where’s the imagery? The metaphors? There’s no similes,
No use of poetic devices, no alliteration. The writer doesn’t even appear depressed or suicidal,
So what the hell kind of poem is this anyway?
[9] <~> @ 167.206.181.179 | 4-May-04/1:20 PM | Reply
'bloomsday'--that's pretty hot.

and you didn't cop out at the end <<appreciation>> although 'they' did.

[9] wilco @ 24.176.102.131 | 4-May-04/2:04 PM | Reply
It is an essay with line breaks, but you make some good points.
[n/a] Nicholas Jones @ 137.44.1.30 > wilco | 7-May-04/6:54 AM | Reply
Why can't poetry reflect on ideas, not just imagery or feelings? Yours is a fundamentally anti-intellectual position. And how do you know what poetry is anyway? Like Wittgenstein said, there are things we recognise without being able to define.
[9] wilco @ 24.176.102.131 > Nicholas Jones | 7-May-04/11:54 AM | Reply
Never said it wasn't poetry. I just agreed with the above comment that it's an essay. It's very well done, and if you notice, I gave you a 9. Poetry is an abstract thing and stating that it's an essay is just breaking it down into a smaller category. I never claim to know "what poetry is", which you could surely tell by reading some of the crap that I have written. I apoligize if you took my comment as an insult.
[10] edpeterson @ 68.79.3.67 | 5-May-04/7:52 AM | Reply
I love it. There are far too many poetry snobs and pedants on this site. I say fuck poetry.
[n/a] zodiac @ 67.240.192.65 > edpeterson | 5-May-04/7:54 AM | Reply
Jesus.
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