Re: Paradelle of Progress by Dovina |
6-Jul-04/2:20 PM |
congrats on trying something new and different. I
enjoyed and give it a nine. Only 5 more to go?
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
6-Jul-04/1:58 PM |
Listen buddy, you and Dark Angel are the ones with the foul
language and name-calling. In fact, you started this whole
thing. And once more for your feeble mind, the central theme
in quantum mechanics is the basic inter-relationship and
inter-connectedness of ALL things. It is a complete change
in how physicists view the world and the old, Cartesian reality
has been replaced by a perceived oneness. So the reality of
Newton and other scientists of his time has been replaced
by the new physics of quantum. Our reality Has changed, you
dupe, but you are obviously unable to grasp such a basic
and obvious fact. And don't be surprised if our current
realities change once again as we gain more knowledge of
the universe we all share. And PLEASE read a good book on
quantum mechanics and spare me your obvious ignorance on
the subject.
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
6-Jul-04/11:33 AM |
Actually, I am the proud owner of a mail order master's degree
in physics from The Jerry Falwell Institute of Advanced Studies
and Creationism. Praise the Lord!
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
6-Jul-04/10:40 AM |
Your ridicule of my statement concerning the "oneness" of
quantum mechanics shows me how ignorant you are on the subject.
A hundred years ago, the universe was believed to be mehanistic,
a kind of giant machine both causal and determinate. It was
perceived an being made up of separate parts existing independent
of each other and viewed by an outside observer. We now know,
thanks to quantum mechanics, that all things in the universe
are inter-connected and inter-dependent and the former observer
is actually a participant. The ESSENCE of quantum physics is
this basic oneness which you choose to ridicule. All things and
events we perceive are connected and are manifestations of the
same, ultimate reality.
If either of you wish to discuss quantum mechanics, at least
know its basic premise and meaning. Better yet, just continue
your specious arguments based on your ignorance of the subject
and pat each other on the back in the belief you have a clue
regarding its meaning. Frankly, you deserve each other.
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
6-Jul-04/10:06 AM |
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
6-Jul-04/10:05 AM |
The basic oneness of the universe is one of the most important
revelations of modern physics, you twerp. Quantum theory has
abolished the notion of fundamentally separated objects and
who we formerly perceived to be an observer,(you and me) are
instead, participators. There exists an essential unity of
all things and events and humans are an integral part of this
unity. Take the time to read about quantum mechanics and then
we could discuss it. It is painfully apparent that neither of
you has a clue regarding its meaning. But that is fine as long
as you have each other to bolster your perceived knowledge and
superior intellects. You deserve each other.
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
6-Jul-04/9:24 AM |
You are really incredible. Dark Angel's "perfectly specific
assertion" that you refer to says nothing specific and sounds
like the words of a little kid without the knowledge to debate
beyond juvenile name calling.
As to your assertion that I have been, "soundly flogged by
specifics", in your dreams, turkey. You and Dark Angel are
both simpletons and should take turns congratulating each other
on your self-perceived, mutual profundity.
One hundred years ago, science universally believed in a
Cartesian, mechanistic reality which has now been replaced by
the dynamic reality of quantum mechanics. What we have is
a change in reality based upon a new way of viewing the world
we live in. And as time passes, this reality may be once again
proven to be bogus. So, reality or our perception of it does
indeed change. Is that so tough to comprehend, you lame brain.
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
6-Jul-04/8:45 AM |
Yes, I agree on some factual realities and some specious ones.
This is not uncommon now nor has it been throughout human
history. Going back only one hundred years, the universe was
generally viewed from a universal Cartesian reality that
has now been proven wrong by quantum mechanics. So now, we
have a different reality that is believed to be fixed and true.
Yet, will it stand the test of time or will it also prove to be
wrong.
And so the beat goes on.....
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
6-Jul-04/8:26 AM |
Your convoluted logic is quite incredible. You call me a
"colossal boob" and claim you are doing so for my own good,
motivated by kindness. Yet, you give no specifics or reason
beyond a simplistic claim that you "like to help people who
are colossal boobs by telling them they're colossal boobs."
This ludicrous statement needs no opinion from me. It stands
without rebuttal as coming from a simpleton who should reflect
on the absolute stupidity of such discourse.
Regarding an "intuitive bad mouthing" compared to a "factual bad
mouthing", I can only shake my head in disbelief.
There is an apropo suggestion I have for you that was written by
Mark Twain:
"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to
speak and remove all doubt"
So please get off my ass as I don't really enjoy these type
of vindictive and shallow arguments which do no one any good.
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
5-Jul-04/7:43 PM |
I understand what you are saying and perhaps I wasn't
listening to your previous posts. In fact, I agree that there
is a fixed reality and your anology on gravitons is right on.
But, what I have been saying is simply that, from a human,
finite perception, ones reality concepts are not the same as
everyone elses. Each of us view the world differently and,
to a degree, we often pick and choose. What is seen as reality
varies but you are right in that reality is a constant. What
are not constant are our perceptions of reality. If you ever
read any of Castaneda's books,(A Separate Reality, etc.), then
you can better relate to what I am saying.
Finally, in my saying reality changes depending on who's looking
at it, I mean a person's perception of reality, not reality
itself.
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
5-Jul-04/6:55 PM |
You started the name calling, not me. If you think my poems
are lousy, just say so. I can accept that but I see no reason
for personal attacks and would never criticize you except in
self-defense. I mean, out of nowhere, you bad mouth me for no
reason so what do you expect me to do?
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Re: ocd by FreeFormFixation |
5-Jul-04/3:08 PM |
Well, you managed to gross me out.
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Re: transmutation by William Delacroix |
5-Jul-04/3:06 PM |
I am speechless. So much written to say so little.
You need to say more using an economy of words.
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Re: Fury by J.B. Manning |
5-Jul-04/2:47 PM |
Kind of like a bad soap opera. Sorry.
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Re: Blobby blob code ** by MR Blobby |
5-Jul-04/2:45 PM |
You've got to be kidding! I'll give you a three just
for having the guts to post it.
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Re: Rainbow by TwilightDawned |
5-Jul-04/2:43 PM |
Short and sweet. Nice imagery.
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
5-Jul-04/2:35 PM |
Oops, I forgot to congratulate you on having, not one, but
two of your poems on the list of the 20 worst. Nice job,
you turkey.
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
5-Jul-04/2:27 PM |
I've read your comments before and they really don't bother
me as long as I consider the source. You are pathetic.
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
5-Jul-04/10:57 AM |
Science could be called systematic knowledge of the physical
or material world. It is "true" only to the extent that we
trust our methods of measurement and observation. Many people,
myself inluded, doubt that any real "truths" exist st the empirical level. In quantum mechanics, there exists a basic
oneness that transcends the physical, more of an intuitive
truth than a factual one.
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Re: a comment on Recycled Stardust by Quarton |
5-Jul-04/10:40 AM |
Zodiac....I believe gravity is a constant and, although still
theory, gravitons exist tho very difficult to find as they have
no mass. The major difference between gravity and the other three
forces is its pervasive nature. In its most striking and potent
form, it prevents light from escaping from a black hole once
inside the event horizon. It also, in Einstein's general theory,
causes space/time to be curved. How that is possible, I have no
clue but this effect is pretty much accepted by physicists. As to
whether it may be applied consistently and is a useful model for
the universe, I think most definitely. It is probably the most
esoteric of the four forces and is the main roadblock in finding
a GUT that unifies the strong and weak nuclear forces, electro-
magnetism and, of ourse, gravity.
I would be interested if you have read of any recent discoveries
or theories regarding gravity as it is the least understood of
the four. And though I believe you started the name calling and
ridicule, I propose a truce. Who knows, if we ever met in person,
we might find we share many mutual interests and opinions.
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