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Reincarnation (Free verse) by Dovina
Apology should always follow death, for having lived and left and slammed the door. It cannot surely end a thing So steady, so secure, so real, but must naturally continue. In heaven, spirits, ghosts, eternity, or reincarnation. A model of truth was she, a noble substitute. She dwelt among us for a time, then died in ancient sorrow. Now warier, conditioned, older, her soul returns, woman or goddess, of ancient Irish renown. Dovina, for me to lean upon.

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Posted: April 16, 2005 11:41 AM PDT; Last modified: April 16, 2005 11:41 AM PDT
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[8] INTRANSIT @ 204.110.228.6 | 16-Apr-05/3:32 PM | Reply
When I get home, we'll get jiggy with this Irish thing eh? Greetings from Pecos Texas or....

how-DEA!
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > INTRANSIT | 17-Apr-05/9:32 AM | Reply
I love to get jiggy.
[9] zodiac @ 212.118.19.111 | 17-Apr-05/6:00 AM | Reply
Not to be irrelevant, but I've always wondered what's the point of reincarnating if you don't remember your past lives. Do you think some people do? If not, how do you think a past self affects somebody's present self? If it doesn't (or doesn't much), isn't it pretty much the same thing as not being reincarnated?
[n/a] Dovina @ 69.175.6.101 > zodiac | 17-Apr-05/9:33 AM | Reply
I have a friend who believes he is the same soul who fought in the Crusades as one of the Knights Templar, and later was a Great Plains inhabitant around 1300. So I began to think who I might have been, and came up with Dovina. I have no memory of her and find no reason to believe my soul is hers, but reading about her I a felt an attachment. It’s a pleasant thought, that’s about all I can say.
[7] thepinkbunnyofdoom @ 4.224.24.206 > Dovina | 18-Apr-05/11:07 AM | Reply
If you were hindu, you could have gotten off with the easy answer of Karma/Dharma.
[n/a] Dovina @ 204.250.12.246 > thepinkbunnyofdoom | 19-Apr-05/6:17 AM | Reply
It's the trouble with all religion. answers are too easy.
[9] zodiac @ 212.118.19.224 > Dovina | 18-Apr-05/10:18 PM | Reply
Oh, good answer.

I've got another one: Have you ever noticed that everybody thinks they were somebody great or at least meaningful in some kind of historically relevant place? I mean, no one ever thinks, I was an accountant in Des Moines in my past life. They're always, as in the case of my wife, an Egyptian slave, an Irish priestess (seriously), a Renaissance mathematician, a Native American, and a Mexican potter. Weird, huh?
[n/a] Dovina @ 204.250.12.246 > zodiac | 19-Apr-05/6:19 AM | Reply
I will assume tentatively that you mean "Oh, good answer" sincerely. I am content in my menial existance, but find Dovina exciting in the way fantasy is.
[n/a] Goad @ 80.132.208.141 > Dovina | 19-Apr-05/7:20 AM | Reply
I'm certain he meant it sincerely, because it's an excellent -- and interesting -- anwswer. That's what's intriguing about you: this mixing of comments that are mature, astute, thoughtful with comments that are head-scratchingly inane/bizarre or just plain wrong.
[n/a] Dovina @ 204.250.12.246 > Goad | 19-Apr-05/9:09 AM | Reply
Of course, I find no inane or wrong comments in my repitoir, except for a few that were intended as funny. I would appreciate a few examples.
[9] zodiac @ 212.118.19.224 > Dovina | 20-Apr-05/2:11 AM | Reply
"It's the trouble with all religion. answers are too easy."

Also, http://www.poemranker.com/poem-details.jsp?id=123173
[9] zodiac @ 212.118.19.224 > Dovina | 20-Apr-05/2:14 AM | Reply
I do.

Oh.

Another story about my wife: Not that she spends a lot of time thinking about reincarnation, but a few years ago she got a gift-certificate to a professional Past-Life Regressionist and got hypnotized in order to revisit a past life. She says she had a really intense vision about living in a hut somewhere. The thing she remembers most clearly? That she was wearing an interesting kind of sandals.
[8] Sasha @ 69.138.228.137 | 18-Apr-05/9:52 PM | Reply
"Model of truth" is superfluous

Third stanza can go.

[n/a] Dovina @ 204.250.12.246 > Sasha | 19-Apr-05/6:16 AM | Reply
The third stanza relates reincarnation to heaven and ghosts in that it projects life past death, and maybe before birth. I thought it was in interesting comparison, though admitedly not developed in the poem.
[n/a] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 | 19-Apr-05/10:13 AM | Reply
BREAKING NEWS: Complete twat elected pope. God be praised!
[n/a] richa @ 81.178.246.197 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 19-Apr-05/3:10 PM | Reply
It is so pleasing that in this climate of hypersensitivity the catholic church can overlook Cardinal Roland Ratzinger's rather unpleasant nazi connections and install such a fine candidate.
[n/a] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > richa | 20-Apr-05/7:51 AM | Reply
It's hardly surprising they elected a fundamentalist. Whenever there's the slightest hint that people are better off following more liberal doctrines, the church recoils in on itself, doing everything in its power to hinder what can only be described by Sensibles as "moral progress." Eventually, when enough people have died of the AIDS, and enough ethnics get parped to the max by over-population, the church's stance on issues such as contraception will become so blatantly harmful, and so blatantly ridiculous, that further resistance becomes counter-productive, and then some radical new Pope Dave will come along and say "Hey guys! You can wear rubber johnnies!" and we'd be like "Yeah we already do, you prick. The ones who didn't are all dead."
[n/a] Dovina @ 204.250.12.246 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 20-Apr-05/8:05 AM | Reply
At age 78, the new pope can't last long. I think it's a giving-in to old dogma just long enough to gain the support needed for a pope with sense. Declining mass attendance, in Ireland for example, should help to this end.
[n/a] -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. @ 81.153.196.50 > Dovina | 20-Apr-05/9:27 AM | Reply
I think the cardinals chose an elderly to give themselves a better chance of being elected pope. Many of them will still be around when Ratzinger goes tits up.
[9] zodiac @ 212.118.19.178 > -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. | 22-Apr-05/5:01 AM | Reply
I'm extremely disappointed about the whole thing. I'd already told all the Arabs they were going to elect the African guy.

If I were Catholic, I'd find it difficult to support the new Pope, especially given that everything he proclaims is bound to be a lot of wash. At least, it's pretty easy to imagine me being skeptical about it considering I'm no longer Catholic. As a Catholic, how do you feel about pooh-poohing Ratzinger?
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