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LilMsLadyPoet @ 207.69.136.204 | 31-Jan-06/8:11 AM | Reply
Is it ethical for someone to copy someone else's comment to their poem, and then post it on another site? (Without the commentors knowledge nor permission.)If it is not ethical, or if you agree that it is in general good-taste to ask someone first; could you let people know that fact? I did a search and found that two people had used my comments. One was in their own private blog, and included bad comments along with the good, but then links back to my profile page here at poemranker. (Good thing my email is private!) The other was included on a site that pays writers, when people read their stuff on the site. He reposted my comment there, and a portion of it, as if I had posted there. My name (LilMsLadyPoet) is signed with my comment. (When in fact I am not a member of the site, and happened upon it only through doing a google search of 'LilMsLadyPoet') I supposed if people do this it may generate interest in what I write, or who I am...but I am not entirely sure that I would always want that. Personally, I would ask before I posted someone's comment, and links to their info, etc. What do you think?

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zodiac @ 209.193.18.47 | 3-Feb-06/12:05 PM | Reply
Everything regarding blogs is ethical.
ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 | 4-Feb-06/8:50 AM | Reply
This is the only one I picked you up on: http://www.geocities.com/amuseme2004/fisherd.html

On the other hand I typed ALChemy into the search engine and got 16,800,000 hits. Talk about a vast conspiracy. When God, when will this nightmare end?
Dovina @ 67.72.98.92 > ALChemy | 4-Feb-06/1:13 PM | Reply
Did you know Isaac Newton was interested in alchemy? At that time, science and magic were considered parts of the same process, and alchemy was as much chemistry as magic. Isaac, however, despite what he is famous for, spent more time doing what? Answer: writing a commentary on the Book of Revelation.
zodiac @ 216.67.6.136 > Dovina | 5-Feb-06/12:27 AM | Reply
Yes, Manou said it, and Zoroaster taught it! the sun is born from fire, the moon from the sun; fire is the soul of the universe; its elementary atoms pour forth and flow incessantly upon the world through infinite channels! At the point where these currents intersect each other in the heavens, they produce light; at their points of intersection on earth, they produce gold. Light, gold; the same thing! From fire to the concrete state. The difference between the visible and the palpable, between the fluid and the solid in the same substance, between water and ice, nothing more. These are no dreams; it is the general law of nature. But what is one to do in order to extract from science the secret of this general law? What! this light which inundates my hand is gold! These same atoms dilated in accordance with a certain law need only be condensed in accordance with another law. How is it to be done? Some have fancied by burying a ray of sunlight, Averroës,--yes, 'tis Averroës,-- Averroës buried one under the first pillar on the left of the sanctuary of the Koran, in the great Mahometan mosque of Cordova; but the vault cannot he opened for the purpose of ascertaining whether the operation has succeeded, until after the lapse of eight thousand years.

What! I hold in my hand the magic hammer of Zéchiélé! at every blow dealt by the formidable rabbi, from the depths of his cell, upon this nail, that one of his enemies whom he had condemned, were he a thousand leagues away, was buried a cubit deep in the earth which swallowed him. The King of France himself, in consequence of once having inconsiderately knocked at the door of the thermaturgist, sank to the knees through the pavement of his own Paris. This took place three centuries ago. Well! I possess the hammer and the nail, and in my hands they are utensils no more formidable than a club in the hands of a maker of edge tools. And yet all that is required is to find the magic word which Zéchiélé pronounced when he struck his nail.

Let us see, let us try! Were I to succeed, I should behold the blue spark flash from the head of the nail. Emen-Hétan! Emen-Hétan! That's not it. Sigéani! Sigéani! May this nail open the tomb to any one who bears the name of Phoebus! A curse upon it! Always and eternally the same idea!
zodiac @ 209.193.14.150 > zodiac | 7-Feb-06/7:10 PM | Reply
I thought surely someone would comment on this. It's Frollo's speech on alchemy from Hunchback of Notre Dame.
ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 > zodiac | 9-Feb-06/9:50 AM | Reply
I missed that in the Disney version.
zodiac @ 209.193.18.14 > ALChemy | 9-Feb-06/7:31 PM | Reply
At the time when he wrote this and other passages in the book, Hugo was probably the best-versed person on Medieval Alchemy in the world. Disney probably wasn't so interested in that.

I can't remember my old annotated Hunchback, but I believe "Emen-Hétan" is either the name of the Wandering Jew, revealed to Solomon, or the magic word the Wandering Jew revealed to Solomon. Anyway, try googling "emen hetan" (without the diacritical) for fun.
ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 > zodiac | 11-Feb-06/9:41 AM | Reply
Wasn't much fun. Mostly witchcraft stuff and this picture:
http://fs5.deviantart.com/p/2004/322/b/b93fa37b9133078a.jpg
One site says it means "Here and there"

How did you make that diacritic anyways? Do you need a certain type of keyboard?
zodiac @ 209.193.18.101 > ALChemy | 11-Feb-06/11:46 AM | Reply
I copied and pasted it from an online text of Hunchback. Otherwise, I'd go "insert symbol" in Word, then cut-and-paste from there. They have all the French accents and then some there.

By the way, did you know if you mistype dictionary.com - dictioanry - it takes you to a Christian site?
ALChemy @ 24.74.100.11 > zodiac | 16-Feb-06/6:29 AM | Reply
I smell conspiracy.
anonymous @ 207.179.148.110 > zodiac | 18-Feb-06/5:34 PM | Reply
Last I checked, the Wandering Jew's name was Ahasverus...
anonymous @ 64.12.116.9 > ALChemy | 5-Feb-06/9:32 AM | Reply
Hellicane
By LilMsLadyPoet, at 9/02/2005 10:52:17 PM. Thank you for this. Well written and heartfelt. By Isabelle, at 9/02/2005 10:52:54 PM ...

http://hellicane.blogspot.com/2005/09/is-this-my-country.html

This came up on my search, as well as another that pays for what is read. That administrator/editor removed my comment "since I felt misrepresented and they could not verify who posted my comment." I sent him the link to my comment and the poem in poemranker. So that worked out well. If you do expanded search and 'show any more like this' you get a huge list!
None of you really clearly expressed what you think of the act of copying others comments without their knowledge...except Zodiac, who says it is all ethical when it comes to blogs.
zodiac @ 216.67.6.21 > anonymous | 5-Feb-06/10:32 PM | Reply
For the record, I didn't say I like that everything regarding blogging is ethical. Nor that I thought it should be that way. I meant that better minds than ours have raised thousands of ethical questions about blogs and blogging, and have always run into brick walls of criticism and odiferous fens of disrepute. For all practical purposes, blogs exist outside of and parallel to our own, mortal morality.




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