ecargo7 Dec 2002

Oh come on--I realize this is a difficult medium in which to convey humor or irony--or maybe it's just my failing--but both the sugar and fair and balanced comments were meant to do so. Of course I'm not fair and balanced about a lot of things--who is? And I can cite titles if you like, but I don't think the arguments I conveyed are so uncommon that you can just take them as "things that vegans often say." I have never heard a vegan say that the reason they didn't eat honey because the workers were oppressed by the queen; apparently you have. Okay, so we've established that. I objected to your pointing to that argument as an example of why most vegans shun honey, since it seemed to be a reason given less commonly than the less ludicrous (to my thinking) ones that I cited. I think that was clear in my original comment. Maybe I'm wrong--you seem to consort with more vegans than I do.