Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/2:30 PM
Pumpkin Pie makes me happy but I didn't marry it. So stop bullshitting me already.
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/2:26 PM
The only way you can say you're happy and not be talking crap is if you can prove it. As far as I know you might be lying. Yes you feel happy and that's what happiness is right? A chemical reaction triggering certain brain and body activity. It has no more significance than that. But for someone who believes there is nothing for him after death, why should you worry about anything beyond your own life?
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/2:06 PM
Yet another so called absurd God comparison. Certainly God could be a computer. In Isaac Asimov's "The Last Question." The story spans the entire existence of the universe, and the plot reveals the existence of God. In the near future, man has invented a super computer known as a Multivac. The computer is asked if entropy (the winding down or loss of energy in the universe) can be reversed. The computer says that not enough data is available. The story progresses many eons and through the years, the computers evolve along with man, and at each stage, it is asked if entropy can be reversed, and the answer always comes back that there is not enough data at that time. In the final stage, human kind has evolved into one mind free of body, and co-exists with the computer which exists in hyperspace. As the universe come to an end and man fades out, the computer discovers how to reverse entropy, and says "Let there be light. To D.A.'s question: I'll know the same way you know you love your wife.
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/12:59 PM
Happiness is wishy-washy. Most emotions are. Happiness is mostly being ignorant to all the bad things. Narrow it down as much as you want, it's still about what you believe in your heart is good and right and if logic applies to it then well that's a big bonus.
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/12:35 PM
So you're quite open to the possibilty of God existing. Thank you, that's quite refreshing to hear from you. Or is comparing aliens and God just as fruitless as the apples and oranges comparison of God and love?
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/12:24 PM
It sounded like Dovina to me. Must we even argue something based my first impression.
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/12:17 PM
Actually I was comparing your comment to Amanda's "love is" comment(it's somewhere in the mess of comment under Dovina's Numbers in Heaven). So God's just a romantic notion like many peoples idea of love and art. Yep that pretty much was the point I was making. It just seems like we all pretty much have romantic notions about one thing or another, maybe you have romantic notions about your wife for instance. So I hope you wouldn't think anything less of me if I choose to hang on to the notion that god exists.
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/12:07 PM
I was more refering to the insistant stile, how he already seems to know what heaven's like.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	20-Mar-06/12:00 PM
Some of your best poetry to date.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	20-Mar-06/11:57 AM
You two are so god damned adorable it makes my teeth ache.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	20-Mar-06/11:51 AM
Wow, you're starting to sound like Amanda. I wonder what you think god is.
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/11:46 AM
Are you sure Dovina didn't write this?
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/11:43 AM
What is absurd is why you are even ewith your wife. We fall in love and stay in love to have children and populate the earth. We live with our lovers to have another worker in the home. There's many logical reasons for why we have lovers, none of which involve making a perfect capuccino and running a bath for them. Admit it, you're a romantic, you make more of love than what it really is. So what's so terrible about making more of life than what it really is? Any talk of love, god and art that doesn't involve scientific fact is trivial and obsurd. But who on this site doesn't get romantic about at least one of the three.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	20-Mar-06/11:20 AM
Originally it started with me wondering how one can be a skeptic and a romantic at the same time, how we mystify and even deify things like love and art but nobody seemed to get on the same wavelength for a while. That's why we need you here. You keep the dreamers from getting too dreamy.
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/10:58 AM
You mean how if you peel back the layers of hoopla about love you've got nothing but a chemical cocktail and if you peel back the layers of hoopla about God you've got nothing but a space filler for the things you don't know? Personally I like a little hoopla in my life, It spices it up a little. Did you know after about 7 or 8 years couples tend to stop being in love. You may wake up one day soon and realize I'm not in love with her anymore and not have any good reason why or she may do the same with you. So a logical person would start packing their bags around year 7.
Re: Perils of the Learning Curve by Dovina	20-Mar-06/10:40 AM
I really thought this might be a metaphor for something. On the other hand, you met a docta! Is he single? You could make your little jewish mutha so proud.
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/10:16 AM
It's in the bible. They made a Broadway musical about it. Most people I tell my dreams to try to interpret them. PS. Promise me you'll never criticize anyone for anything they believe even if what they believe contradicts what you believe.
Re: a comment on REM Sleep by mystic enoch	20-Mar-06/10:09 AM
Apparently we crossed the line somewhere. If so I appologize. Now will you please come out and play?
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	20-Mar-06/1:13 AM
Yes, it is a bugger to express. I think we need that mysterious and elusive factor that many of us sense with love, art, God, etc. I think once we start thinking that our current use of logic is the only way then our boundries become set and we are doomed to be lost in time like the Amish, unwilling to open our minds and dream of the seemingly impossible. Call me a Don Quixote but I love the idea of the impossible dream, that something exists that we are at this point incapable of understanding.
Re: a comment on Numbers In Heaven by Dovina	20-Mar-06/12:15 AM
Let me rephrase that to make my thoughts clearer. "To be like God or not to be like God."