Dovina27 Dec 2005

I agree with most of what you say. But to assert that "there is no logic beyond our senses that we know of" is to say we cannot know logic in a real way. Then we cannot say that numbers exist in a real world, the number 332, for example, because 332 is logically deduced. We cannot look at a group of things and say that 332 of them are in the group without going through a counting or grouping process - logical deduction. I believe that constructs such as these exist in a world that exists and that they are inseparable from it.