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f*ckyouoldmenandyourrules (Pimple) by Damien_

yo, Goad, listen up motherf*cker ima bust your ass without succor ima make your butt cheeks pucker take me for some sucker don't look for obviation of my rage with citation of some old rules for the formation of my words -- it's creation f*ck you and your castration of poetry's raw elation I'll slam you to damnation all you've got's dry explanation a boring mindless libration around a fixed point of reference... that's just dumb deference to some dead guy's ideas of what's right because he was more read than you, now he's dead so you make his achievement ground zero you forget why he's a hero 'cuz he did it all different, broke the old rules and he'd come back and call you all fools but all you can do is hassle go on and build your air castle your dreams of superiority, keep on with your delusions that your mere seniority holds off our conclusions about your inferiority think we're cheering your wit? we saw your last post, it was sure shitty how much time engineering that poor ditty lol after hearing your shit we all have some confusion how you're sustaining the illusion your skill with words is that facile I think your work's a big passle of shit, and you're my vassal you've missed the point you dumb assh*le poetry's not some theory Bohr writ, see our energy's not in boxes quantum states cuz some cock says no, we're the free radicals and these are just the first fascicles of new poetical pinnacles so f*ck off all you aristocraticals you'd best stop intruding on our work with rude sling- ing of insults, denuding some poor girl's heartfelt brooding because she missed some apostrophes they don't matter! your commentary's just chatter you don't care if the accrued sting gives her one fatal last mood swing just so you can make like you're some Sophocles if we let you somehow you'd wring all the joy from this true thing we call poetry, but now I'm disallowing so get set to march like deng xiaoping but you won't end up no president you'll just be another resident of the club for washed up oldie hacks with the rockmages and the zodiacs what you get for trying to be brainiacs well done and good luck, you has-been old f*ck.

richa 20-Apr-05/1:47 AM
It is incorrect to say that all your critics are old and only critical because of this. Many of your critics can write like this but have chosen not to because they believe the style is not particularly valuable. Most decent poets can rhyme well and most decent poets will throw away many perfectly good rhymes because they have set their poem a structure to fulfil. This is called discipline. Now jam poetry or rap poetry or whatever you wish to call this traditionally has less discipline. If this style is to be good you must use some. Now if you were to write a poem about the criticism of goad then certain things would not naturally come up, castration for instance. The good poet would therefore look for a more suitable word. There is no use of metaphor in this poem. Now there is no law to say you need to use metaphor, but metaphor at least conveys reflection of an idea and an attempt to represent that idea in an interesting way. I would take issue with your point about Shakespeare. Although Shakespeare did to a certain extent break the rules, what he did not do was make the same mistakes that every other uneducated hack poet made in his day. Bad poets have forever made the same mistakes such as vagueness, forced rhyme and incoherence. If you make these mistakes they are not suddenly going to become revolutionary just because they are not found in published poetry. The question of punctuation and grammar is important. There is an argument that a bad critic will focus on poor grammar and use that to make conclusions about the poet and poetry as a whole. This is analgous to a poet using the metaphor of a rose to infer that all pretty things have thorns. It is unwarranted. However poor grammar and punctuation can contribute to the poet being unable to get his message across. To attack grammar for grammar's sake therefore is entirely valid. There is no advantage to a poet writing poor grammar and therefore any rectification of it is a good thing.




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